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Unarmed for the Election (McClintock, Schwartzenegger, and Gun Rights)
National Review ^ | September 30, 2003 | Dave Kopel

Posted on 09/30/2003 1:04:48 PM PDT by Korth

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To: Theodore R.
Bruce Hershensohn (Sp.) is apparently one of the few conservatives staying put for McClintock. Even Robert Novak says he "endorses and would vote" for Arnold.

Rush has done an excellent job of staying neutral. I know my Rush, and he is setting himself up for a collasal "I Told You So" (So am I)

I wish he would have taken the strategy of fighting openly for McClintock. He dropped the CA issue pretty much after (R)nold "right turn" press conference that got all the True Believers clappin' and stompin' along with the music. I think he knew that the Celebrity Worship going on might be bigger than his influence to overcome. I think he might have been wrong.

One thing is clear, Medved, Hannity, OReilly et al are truely second tier Conservative thinkers and strategists, as they demonstrate on (R)nold/Tom issues daily...

61 posted on 09/30/2003 2:59:16 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (That's pre-election bogus, Arnold Schwarzenegger.)
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To: Korth
And THAT is why I want Arnold, Cruz, and Davis to ALL LOSE.
62 posted on 09/30/2003 2:59:21 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A vote for McClintock is a vote for Kyle Reese...and a vote against Cruz.)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
Hannity argued last week that it was important to get behind Arnold because Conservatives would get 70% of what they stood for.

I'd settle for 50%. Arnold is maybe 20%, and that depends on how the wind is blowing on economic issues that day.

63 posted on 09/30/2003 3:01:04 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A vote for McClintock is a vote for Kyle Reese...and a vote against Cruz.)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Funn the number one criticism Rush (and NR) had on Tom is they wanted him to attack Rnulled more....as much as the Rnulled people bitched.. Tom never really has attacked Rnulled
64 posted on 09/30/2003 3:07:09 PM PDT by tophat9000 (California taxpayers w/Rnulled .. you just dropped the soap)
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To: Theodore R.
ENTITLED:
Why does McClintock think he's entitled
to the Governorship?


Ray Haynes Endorsement

[snip]...Tom was not at those meetings, and Darrell asked me what I thought Tom would do if he financed the recall. I told him I didn't know, but Darrell would have a persuading argument to ask him to step aside, since Tom could not have made it work without Darrell's help. I know Darrell talked to Tom about not running. Tom ultimately decided not to reconsider. Issa is a strong conservative, and was, more than any other, responsible for the success of the recall, but Tom's believed he should be Governor. That was one of the principal reasons (though not the only one) Darrell chose not to run. We lost a solid conservative, who could have financed his own campaign, and got a solid conservative who could not, because Tom believed he was entitled to the Governor's office. [end snip


65 posted on 09/30/2003 3:07:43 PM PDT by deport (Why does McClintock think he's ENTITLED to the CA Governorship?)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Freedom and Firearms -- A Speech by Senator Tom McClintock
Western Conservative Conference, Los Angeles, June 9, 2001

Molon Labe!

66 posted on 09/30/2003 3:11:03 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR ((R)nold's like a chrome plated Yugo - all show and no go! McClintock for Governor of California!)
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To: deport
Arnold's a gun grabber. You can post second hand stuff if you want, but when it comes to the big issues, Arnold fails badly.
67 posted on 09/30/2003 3:15:29 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A vote for McClintock is a vote for Kyle Reese...and a vote against Cruz.)
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To: going hot
stopped from passage,or vetoed, or successfully fought against

You need to take a civics lesson. Tom has been an Assemblyman and a Senator. Neither has the authority to veto anything. He does have a perfect record casting his votes bad gun legislation.

68 posted on 09/30/2003 3:17:39 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (It's time for Arnold to stop splitting the Republican vote and step aside for the good of the party)
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To: truthkeeper
Arnold's glaring ignorance of California gun laws is just one example of the inept governator we are going to get.Davis and Arnold. Dumb and dumber.
69 posted on 09/30/2003 3:23:39 PM PDT by novacation
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To: novacation
Davis and Arnold. Dumb and dumber.

Go Cruz Go, eh?

70 posted on 09/30/2003 3:25:05 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Roscoe
not trying to dodge anything.

My points are as follows:

In 20 years plus, he has the voting record,which in itself does not sway the legislation in this state.For that,you must either be in the majority or hold the executive branch reins.

Therefore,Tom Mclintock must actually win the plurality vote to become the governor, and THEN veto stuff.

He must also work with the deeply entrenched leftist legislature to get anything more than a veto to effect legislation. Simply vetoing stuff for four years may in itself appeal to many, it is not a well managed way to lead, and get things done.

Now, if Tom's supporters doubled, no doubt from arnold supporters, because I doubt any arriana or busty or comeho (sp) supporters will be won over to your side, he may have a chace to win, therefore exercise veto power. So,in effect, what you are asking, is for the front runner in the election, by substantial numbers,to drop out, so that a person who consistantly polls third may have a chance to win.

Do you seriously believe that your brand of political view is acceptable to the majority of voters in this state?

Would you like for me to show up at your door and force you to march down to the polls and vote my way or don't vote? How about if I call you a (fill in the blank)for disagreeing with me, then ask you to support my candidate,you know, the one that is polling a distant third,because almost 80% of the voting block do not wish to vote for him on one pretext or another,

You may have sufficient merit in your views,but wishes do not win elections.In this state,this October, I submit a great many voters, indeed the majority, do not see things the exact same way you do, and will vote accordingly.

Is it right or wrong? Does not matter.It will still happen that way.

How do you change it? Certainly not by belittleing those who disagree with you politically.

71 posted on 09/30/2003 3:25:21 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: .38sw
we shouldn't be "one-issue" voters

I'm still looking for the ONE ISSUE I can agree with Schwarznkennedy on. Haven't found it yet. Go, McClintock!!!

72 posted on 09/30/2003 3:26:51 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Roscoe
Perhaps he meant 7.0%.

BINGO!

73 posted on 09/30/2003 3:36:41 PM PDT by calcowgirl (Right Wing Crazy #4052977)
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To: Dan from Michigan
You can post second hand stuff if you want


Kinda like 'right wing crazies'?
74 posted on 09/30/2003 3:38:23 PM PDT by deport (Why does McClintock think he's ENTITLED to the CA Governorship?)
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To: PRND21
Go Cruz Go, eh?

Judging by your attitude towards illegal immigration on other threads, I'm not surprised you're a Cruz fan.

75 posted on 09/30/2003 3:39:00 PM PDT by jmc813 (How ironic is it that Arnold turned out to be the spoiler?)
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To: PRND21
Back from your ACLU meeting? Ahnold is your man because you share a common trait. Ignorance.Nice talking to you.
76 posted on 09/30/2003 3:40:40 PM PDT by novacation
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To: .38sw
None of this matters. Arnold is a Republican, and he can win, so we shouldn't be "one-issue" voters

I'm now a one issue voter. Arnold is the issue.

77 posted on 09/30/2003 3:45:10 PM PDT by calcowgirl (Right Wing Crazy #4052977)
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To: deport
I don't even need to go there when the issues themselves speak.

The fact that Arnold is anti-2nd Amendment, anti-life, and has questionable advisors at best when it comes to taxes.(Riordan, Buffett, the Kennedys)

78 posted on 09/30/2003 3:46:04 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A vote for McClintock is a vote for Kyle Reese...and a vote against Cruz.)
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To: jmc813
Wrong again. Go look.
79 posted on 09/30/2003 3:46:04 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: novacation
ACLU? Whatever, newbie shill.
80 posted on 09/30/2003 3:47:15 PM PDT by PRND21
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