Help The Bush Administration Out Joe Wilson As A Liar (Email To Talk Radio Hosts/Vanity)

Pubbie | 09/29/03 | Pubbie

[Pubbie]

That's what I think too, that Wilson was the leaker.

[Belial]

That's what I think too, that Wilson was the leaker.

That's ridiculous. Novak and at least six other journalists were contacted by one or two senior Administration officials with the identity of Wilson's wife.

Wilson doesn't qualify as a senior official.

Claiming Wilson is the source of the link sounds like willful ignorance.

[archy]

But one might assume that. The CIA was pissed, and want to smoke out the blabber.

Wilson, feeling the heat, overreacts. His claims are not dispassionate or tempered, but wild, perhaps in reaction to fear knowing the CIA was pissed (not to mention wifey.) In order to deflect, he chooses Karl Rove, a prominent lefty bugaboo that got their limited noggins going, and going, and going.

Maybe. Or maybe he was just afraid that he could end up like David Kelly in Britain.

-archy-/-

[marron]

Thats easy to do. Wilson is a liar.

He lied when he said he investigated the issue. He didn't. He asked a government functionary if it was true, and then parroted the answer. There was no investigation.

He lied on another level, in that he denied a charge that Bush did not make. Bush said that Iraq "sought" uranium, a charge that is irrefutable in that it is based on public information. Wilson said that there was "no sale", and labels Bush a liar based on this sleight of hand. Such semantic game-playing is Clintonian and amounts to a falsehood.

He lied when he wrote his op-ed piece labeling the president a liar, where he left out the key piece of the puzzle. That Iraq sent one of its senior ambassadors on a "trade mission" to Niger is public information. He left that out of his op-ed piece because that would have exposed his charge as fraudulent. He also left out the fact that he told Tenet that shortly after the official trade mission, an Iraqi "businessman" had also made contact with the Niger government... about what, Wilson does not know. He merely "investigated", he didn't actually find out anything.

Since Niger has no other exports of note than uranium, and since Iraq's existing stock of uranium came in part from Niger, and since Iraq has made contacts with the other African uranium producers, the simple fact is that Bush told the truth, that the truth of his charge is not even controversial, and requires no secret intel to back it up. It certainly requires no trip to Niger to verify a trade mission that was public information.

Wilson lied again when he said that the mines are so well monitored that they couldn't possibly transfer uranium to Iraq without anyone knowing it. The IAEA themselves say that they lack personnel to monitor the mines, and they are trying to get the laws in place that will permit them to monitor Niger's uranium production. Meaning that they do not now have the authority, meaning they are not now monitoring it.

Wilson lied.

[Pubbie]

Novak NEVER said he got his information from "Senior Administration Officials", reread Novak's article.

[Belial]

Novak NEVER said he got his information from "Senior Administration Officials", reread Novak's article.

You're quite incorrect.

When syndicated columnist Robert Novak reported on July 14 that "two senior administration officials" had told him that the wife of a prominent White House critic did undercover work for the CIA, it barely caused a ripple.

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[Belial]

Novak NEVER said he got his information from "Senior Administration Officials", reread Novak's article.

Here is the quote from Novak's article.

Wilson never worked for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction. Two senior administration officials told me Wilson's wife suggested sending him to Niger to investigate the Italian report.

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Time to look for another line of defense.

[Pubbie]

I stand corrected - it's hard to keep up with all the conspiracy theories and lies.

[Pubbie]

I stand corrected - it's hard to keep up with all the conspiracy theories and lies.

[Mo1]

Heck .. I'm sending this info out to those on my email list

Taking it straight to the people

I am TICKED OFF!!

[Burkeman1]

I doubt this "scandal" will develop any legs.

[My2Cents]

Uncle Joe Wilson....poster boy of the Bush-haters.

[Loyal Buckeye]

And don't forget to tell 'em he's a DEMOCRAT.

[bluester]

Yeah blame it all on Wilson. Even if he only tells the truth....

[TBP]

I wouldn't be at all surprised if it turns out that the person who tipped off the media that Mrs. Wilson was with the CIA (she's an analyst, BTW, not an agent) turned out to be Wilson himself.

That is a good way to make the Bush Administration look bad, create a scandal, and promote his anti-American political ideology.

[Dems_R_Losers]

Here is the quote from Novak's article.

"Wilson never worked for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction. Two senior administration officials told me Wilson's wife suggested sending him to Niger to investigate the Italian report.

Time to look for another line of defense.

Nice try. Read it again. Novak says two senior Administrion officials told him "Wilson's wife suggested sending him to Niger." What part of that sentence says "two senior Administration officials told me Wilson's wife is a CIA operative and gave me her name"? He mentions these facts in the PREVIOUS sentence. Novak has been a journalist for 40 years. He knows how to write a precise sentence and say exactly what he means. If he had gotten the information about who and what Wilson's wife was from the senior Administration officials, he would have said so. But that isn't what he said! He said the information he DID receive from the Administration officials was that the wife suggested sending Wilson to Niger.

[Stultis]

Greg Knapp, Talk Radio, KLIF 570 AM, Dallas/Ft Worth, TX

Greg will be covering the Wilson/Yellowcake/Whitehouse "Leak" issue in the next hour (5:05pm CST). Greg and his staff always do excellent research, and Greg is as sharp as a tack. Must listen. Oline here:

http://www.streamaudio.com/listen?station=KLIF_AM

[marron]

Yeah blame it all on Wilson. Even if he only tells the truth....

If Karl Rove violated the law and revealed the identity of a CIA agent, he should and probably will pay the consequences. I will weep no tears for him personally, although I would be disturbed that the administration would stumble so stupidly.

But the heart of Wilson's case, his supposed investigation in Niger, is a lie, and his penchant for repeating it makes him an unrepentant liar.

To the degree that his wife is involved in some official capacity, to the degree that the agency got involved in backing Wilson's hatchet-job simply points up the politicization of the agency. I have observed other examples of it in the last couple of years, and that is the story that needs to be studied.

The CIA has been pushed aside in the last couple of years by military intelligence, particularly naval intelligence, because of the probably well-founded impression that CIA has lost its touch and has been politicized.

[swarthyguy]

And since 9/11 I've noticed a proliferation of personages who want to call attention to themselves and their self-purported expertise.

Mansur Ijaz, where are you?

[Right_in_Virginia]

THANK YOU! I've already received phone calls on this.