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Black CEO Runs as Conservative Republican in Senate Race
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| September 19, 2003
| Jimmy Moore
Posted on 09/27/2003 11:47:58 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
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To: irv
And before anyone says, "Oh, we'll have just the national sales tax and get rid of the income tax" forget it. I haven't even seen a proposal to amend the Constitution to eliminate the income tax. It's NOT going away. Well, if you want to dwell in the land of the possible, the sales tax ain't gonna happen any time soon. But I am certain that Cain would only support a sales tax if the income tax was dead, burned, and scattered to the four corners of the earth. If it makes you feel better, I believe he supports a flat tax as a step in the right direction.
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posted on
09/27/2003 9:31:08 PM PDT
by
JohnnyZ
(Robot robot robot)
To: ovrtaxt
Given vote fraud, let's go to Georgia and vote for him anyway. Whats salt for the democrats is salt for republicans, lol.
Go Cain!
To: irv
And before anyone says, "Oh, we'll have just the national sales tax and get rid of the income tax" forget it. I haven't even seen a proposal to amend the Constitution to eliminate the income tax. It's NOT going away.Then you haven't seen HR 25, in Congress NOW, with 33 co-sponsors, one of whom is Tom DeLay. Read it, it repeals the income tax.
TITLE I--REPEAL OF THE INCOME TAX, PAYROLL TAXES, AND ESTATE AND GIFT TAXES
SEC. 101. INCOME TAXES REPEALED.
Subtitle A of title 26 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (relating to income taxes and self-employment taxes) is repealed.
SEC. 102. PAYROLL TAXES REPEALED.
(a) IN GENERAL- Subtitle C of title 26 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (relating to payroll taxes and withholding of income taxes) is repealed.
(b) FUNDING OF SOCIAL SECURITY- For funding of the Social Security Trust Funds from general revenue, see section 201 of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 401).
SEC. 103. ESTATE AND GIFT TAXES REPEALED.
Subtitle B of title 26 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (relating to estate and gift taxes) is repealed.
SEC. 104. CONFORMING AMENDMENTS; EFFECTIVE DATE.
(a) CONFORMING AMENDMENTS- The Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended--
(1) by striking subtitle H (relating to financing of Presidential election campaigns), and
(A) subtitle D (relating to miscellaneous excise taxes) as subtitle B,
(B) subtitle E (relating to alcohol, tobacco, and certain other excise taxes) as subtitle C,
(C) subtitle F (relating to procedure and administration) as subtitle D,
(D) subtitle G (relating to the Joint Committee on Taxation) as subtitle E,
(E) subtitle I (relating to the Trust Fund Code) as subtitle F,
(F) subtitle J (relating to coal industry health benefits) as subtitle G, and
(G) subtitle K (relating to group health plan portability, access, and renewability requirements) as subtitle H.
(b) Redesignation of 1986 Code-
(1) IN GENERAL- The Internal Revenue Code of 1986 enacted on October 22, 1986, as heretofore, hereby, or hereafter amended, may be cited as the `Internal Revenue Code of 2003'.
(2) REFERENCES IN LAWS, ETC- Except when inappropriate, any reference in any law, Executive order, or other document--
(A) to the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 shall include a reference to the Internal Revenue Code of 2003, and
(B) to the Internal Revenue Code of 2003 shall include a reference to the provisions of law formerly known as the Internal Revenue Code of 1986.
(c) ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS- For additional conforming amendments, see section 202 of this Act.
(d) EFFECTIVE DATE- Except as otherwise provided in this Act, the amendments made by this Act shall take effect on January 1, 2005.
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posted on
09/28/2003 3:33:53 PM PDT
by
ovrtaxt
( http://www.fairtax.org **** Forget ANWR. Drill Israel !)
To: ovrtaxt
Then you haven't seen HR 25, in Congress NOW, with 33 co-sponsors, one of whom is Tom DeLay. Read it, it repeals the income tax.A very good start. But just a start. You have to amend the Constitution to prohibit income taxes.
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posted on
09/28/2003 8:34:24 PM PDT
by
irv
To: irv
"You have to amend the Constitution to prohibit income taxes."
Indeed you do. The FairTax bill would repeal the Internal Revenue Code. The plan would be to immediately start working on repeal of the 16th. Repeal of the 16th cannot realistically begin until a consensus is reached as to what would replace it.
To: Kuksool
Andrew Young just announced that he will not run. The democrats have noone in the race (yet?) with significant name recognition. Speculation centers around former senator Sam Nunn's daughter, labor commissioner Mike Thurmond, or perhaps recently defeated Max Cleland.
Mr. Cain has competiton on the republican side from current congressmen Johnny Isakson and Mac Collins. Isakson has a big lead in money, but most Georgia republicans don't consider him conservative. He was the last member of Georgia's republican congressional delegation to sign onto the FairTax bill.
Herman Cain will have to run a strong campaign to overtake these two republicans, both of whom have higher name recognition, but he is extremely impressive as a speaker. Much of his current work is motivational speaking. I predict he will be a big winner in any debates held.
To: JohnnyZ
"If it makes you feel better, I believe he supports a flat tax as a step in the right direction."
Well, the flat tax isn't a step in the right direction, it's a distraction and I doubt that Mr. Cain would support it for that reason. We flattened the rates in 1986 and got rid of many of the deductions and today we have a monstrosity that is far worse than the one we had before 1986. The lobbyists thought that they had died and gone to heaven.
To: ovrtaxt
"I am disgusted by the tax-and-spend philosophy of the liberal Democratic Party in America," he continues in the e-mail. "Their regressive taxation, their confiscation of wealth all the way through life -- and even at death -- and their immoral double taxation on the earnings of hard-working American's simply has to stop." Cain describes how he was unafraid as CEO of Godfather's Pizza to take on former President Clinton's proposed universal health care in 1994 when he told the former president that his numbers were "flat out wrong -- dead wrong." Cain was so passionate about this issue because he said the "plan would cost many of my employees their jobs."
He sounds like a good candidate to me
Anyone know any more about him?
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posted on
10/05/2003 12:40:57 AM PDT
by
Mo1
(http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
To: ovrtaxt
I have read about Herman Cain before and I believe that he is the genuine article. He would make a great Senator. Rep. Mac Collins has a lifetime ACU rating of 96 (including 100 in 2002) and Rep. Johnny Isakson has a lifetime rating of 84 (pretty weak, although he was at 96 in 2002). Isakson's numbers cause me not to trust him, but if one of the other two candidates can win the primary, the Republican Party will be in good shape.
To: ovrtaxt
"I'm not going to cause a whole herd, avalanche of black Democratic voters to vote Republican and vote for me," Cain admits. "I don't need all of them. I just need some of them ... who resonate with my message."
I like his style!...i wish white republicans had the balls to say that.
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posted on
10/05/2003 12:48:35 AM PDT
by
teldon30
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