CIA seeks probe of White House; Agency asks Justice to investigate leak of employee’s identity

MSNBC-NBC News ^ | Sept. 26, 2003

[gaspar]

Nobody, especially a former Ambassador, appears in a country, has meetings with its leadership, reports back (to whom?), without the U.S. Embassy's knowledge. I am sure that there was cable traffic both before and after Wilson's trip between State, probably the CIA, and Niamey. Now, I happen to consider the CIA a part of the administration. Thus, if as you put it the visit was part of a "rogue operation" then a whole lot of heads should roll.

[oldironsides]

I am still waiting for the case to be resolved. The 1200 FBI files on GOPers going to the whitehouse for political ammo for Hillary Clinton and her cronies to use as they see fit. I would also like to know which of her groupies called the Wsashington Post and leaked information from these files. Anyone taking part in these FBI interviews were assured it was never going to be released. The CIA should know the person creating problems for operatives in the whitehouse but there should also be a look into the Clinton whitehouse FBI file case. We will not even mention the stumbling, bumbling Vince Foster case.

[B Knotts]

Pres. Bush should use this as an opportunity to dump Rove.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!

[aristeides]

Who are Novak's sources in the White House?

[MEG33]

Beats me.He's not exactly an insider.

[MEG33]

Why dump Rove?

[browardchad]

Now, I happen to consider the CIA a part of the administration.

And Bush has total control of the CIA? He's been able to clean out the cobwebbed-heads, even though he has no control over hiring and firing of CIA agents?

Why isn't Tenent being mentioned here? Wasn't Cheney's question to Tenent about the uranium the catalyst for this back-stabbing fiasco? Cheney stated on a Sunday news show recently that he had no knowledge of Wilson's trip until he read about it in the NYT.

Once Wilson went public, his wife's identity was fair game for journalists, IMO, and I don't think it would have been that difficult a fact to ferret out. After all the recent media hijinx that has been exposed do we believe all these "unnamed sources" actually exist?

[piasa]

Her name wasn't difficult to ferret out at all. Her name was mentioned in Wilson's own very fluffy and not entirely accurate resume, which was published on the website of some group he is associated with. This web site is that of the CPS : Corporate and Public Strategy Advisory Group where he is listed as "part of the team." He should watch what info he gives out in his resume if he doesn't want anyone to take a look.

See: http://216.239.53.104/search?q=cache:TjVOq4W4lssJ:www.cpsag.com/our_team/wilson.html+%22valerie+plame%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

[tbpiper]

oh yeah, try to get this nation to see the moral relativity between the two. That's a dog we don't wanna fight or a fight we don't wanna dog or a dog we don't have in teh fight or a fight we don't have in the dog or something to that effect.

Doggone if I know. But with dogged determination, wearing out my Hush Puppies, think we can sniff this one out like a blood hound. 'Course, I could be barking up the wrong tree unless we can get someone to roll over, the heel! Well, I'm not going to sit up and beg for an answer. I think is time, no, well past time to play dead. Or mayby just flea the scene.

[piasa]

Columnist Blows CIA Agent's Cover by Robert Novak

The discussion on that thread is interesting.

[piasa]

Head of CIA Weapons Analysis Program Leaving
Reuters ^ | 09-10-03


Posted on 09/10/2003 5:28 PM PDT by Brian S


Wed September 10, 2003 02:16 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A top CIA expert on weapons of mass destruction, who became embroiled in controversy over whether the White House stretched evidence about Iraq's programs, said he planned to leave the agency in October.

Alan Foley, who heads the Weapons Intelligence, Nonproliferation, and Arms Control Center, told colleagues in a note dated Aug. 29 that he had been "thinking about life after the agency for some time" and decided to leave after 26 years to enter the private sector.

He alluded to this summer's finger-pointing between the Central Intelligence Agency and the White House over who was responsible for an unsubstantiated claim in President Bush's State of the Union address in January that Iraq had sought uranium from Africa.

Critics seized on the reference, later found to have been partly based on forged documents, as a sign the White House had exaggerated the threat from Iraq to build support for the war.

"While I can't prevent the inevitable speculation that will be generated by the timing of my decision, I want you to know that this is something that I decided entirely on my own," Foley said in the note, obtained by Reuters on Wednesday.

"I can't deny that the pressures of the past few months have not weighed heavily in my mind, but there are many other aspects to my decision, not the least of which is that I'm intrigued by the prospect of trying my hand at a second career in the private sector," he said.

U.S. officials have said White House National Security Council weapons expert Bob Joseph discussed the uranium line with Foley, but there were differing recollections about who said what.

In one version, Joseph asked CIA's Foley if it was OK to use the uranium line in the speech and cite the British as the source, and that the CIA approved that language.

In another version, Foley told the White House's Joseph the CIA had recommended the British not include the claim in their September 2002 dossier on Iraq but the British included it anyway, citing intelligence that the Americans did not have.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: ALANFOLEY; BOBJOSEPH; CIA; JOSEPHCWILSONIV; JOSEPHWILSON; PLAME; RETIREMENT; ROBERTJOSEPH; VALERIEPLAME; VALERIEPLAMEWILSON; VALERIEWILSON; WINPAC; WMD

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1 posted on 09/10/2003 5:28 PM PDT by Brian S
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To: Brian S; seamole; Miss Marple

Remember Joseph Wilson......this is his wife Valerie Plame's boss.


2 posted on 09/10/2003 5:39 PM PDT by Dog
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To: BOBTHENAILER; section9; hchutch; Poohbah

Want to bet he was pushed.


3 posted on 09/10/2003 5:40 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog

To steal a title from Eminem, it looks like they're:

CLEANING OUT THE CLOSET!!!!!!!


5 posted on 09/10/2003 5:53 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: miteymo; MJY1288; Dog

Oh, welcome to FR miteymo! Just registered today, did you?

And why do you think this was an intelligence blunder? In the opinion of many, it was a deliberate effort to sabotage the efforts of the President, and Foley, Wilson, and Wilson's wife, were complicit in this plot.


6 posted on 09/10/2003 5:59 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: miteymo; Miss Marple

I think Foley is fed up with the lies.

AAAAAWWWWWWWW. Gee...poor Mr. Foley. You his cousin or something?

The only intelligence blunder on this thread is your post.


7 posted on 09/10/2003 6:06 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: Miss Marple

Oh Geeze, where do I start, or better yet, should I even bother wasting my time with this newbie?


8 posted on 09/10/2003 6:09 PM PDT by MJY1288 (The Enemies of America can Count on the Democrats for Aid and Comfort)
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To: BOBTHENAILER

Isn't it fascinating that we would have a new poster today talking about intelligence blunders and such? On the same day that Mr. Foley's resignation is made known. Quite a coincidence, isn't it?


10 posted on 09/10/2003 6:21 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: MJY1288

Don't waste your time, my friend. He's just another escapee from DU. Personally, I think this guy was told to resign or be fired. Cleaning out the clintonites, one by one.


11 posted on 09/10/2003 6:21 PM PDT by Wait4Truth
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To: MJY1288

I thought you would find the Foley resignation interesting, as well as the appearance of the newbie.


12 posted on 09/10/2003 6:22 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Brian S

They better take away all his sharp knives.


13 posted on 09/10/2003 6:23 PM PDT by palmer (paid for by the "Lazamataz for Supreme Ruler" campaign.)
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To: Miss Marple

Thanks for the ping, I believe Foley want's out before any investigation gets underway about Joseph Wilson & his wife's involvement in this whole Niger smear attempt


14 posted on 09/10/2003 6:35 PM PDT by MJY1288 (The Enemies of America can Count on the Democrats for Aid and Comfort)
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To: MJY1288

I agree. Very interesting timing.

Notice how he goes out of his way to say this is ony his decision. I bet he was given a strong hint.

Next we should look for Valerie's resignation.


15 posted on 09/10/2003 6:51 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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Quite a coincidence, isn't it?

He He He.

There are no such things as coincidences in intelligence matters.

MiteyMo is a cousin, half-brother, half-sister, or some such Clintonian inbred relation to the RAT Foley, et al, clan. Trailer park trash, one and all.

How about a beer MiteyMo, shot a clear (moonshine) or maybe let's get down with some unlabeled mash, eh?


16 posted on 09/10/2003 8:19 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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[piasa]

see above

[browardchad]

Thanks for the ping. I remember reading that thread. I guess Foley wasn't the only trash that needed to be taken out.

I'm still amused by the anonymity granted to the "CIA" in this story -- as if the agency is some amorphous spirit that communicates by thoughtwaves.

Who, if anyone, at the CIA is seeking the probe, Andrea Mitchell? Valerie Plame, perhaps?

[piasa]

Good point; just more unnamed, unsubstantiated claims.

Maybe it's the legendary T J Wilkerson :

SEPTEMBER 10, 2001 : (TRUTHOUT.ORG,.COM, AND .NET IS REGISTERED BY "MARC ASH" THE DAY BEFORE THE 911 ATTACKS; WOULD LATER PLAY THE LEAD IN SPREADING NIGER FLAP STORY)

SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 : (911 ATTACKS ON THE US)

SEPTEMBER 2002 - JULY 2003 : (CAPITOL HILL BLUE'S DOUG THOMPSON USES "TERRANCE J. WILKERSON" AS A SOURCE IN SIX STORIES AS AN UNNAMED SOURCE, AS A NAMED SOURCE IN ONE OTHER)JULY 8, 2003 : (CAPITOL HILL BLUE PUBLISHES DOUG THOMPSON ARTICLE UNDER THE TITLE "White House Admits Bush Lied About Iraqi Nukes") http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/943908/posts

JULY 9, 2003, 3:08 PM : (TROLL POSTS PLAGIARIZED CHB ARTICLE FROM JAPAN TODAY VIA TRUTHOUT ON FREEREPUBLIC.COM, ALONG WITH LINK TO THE WACKO WEBSITE STORMFRONT) At 3:08 today one of our returning trolls posted the article as it appeared on Japan Today. The user also was kind enough to include a link to Stormfront. The user has had many names here, and gets banned immediately because his ilk are not welcome here. For what it is worth. AM 59 posted on 07/09/2003 8:01 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

JULY 9, 2003 : (DOUG THOMPSON POSTS APOLOGY FOR CAPITOL HILL BLUE STORY : SOURCE TERRENCE J. WILKERSON" CITED TURNS OUT TO BE A FAKE) BREAKING: Conned big time "CIA Witness" to White House Lying about Intel story found to be FRAUD , Capitol Hill Blue ^ | July 9, 2003 | Doug Thompson

JULY 9, 2003 : (A PROFILE FOR "WILLIAM RIVERS PITT" APPEARS ON THE WEB SITE CAPITOL HILL BLUE, LISTING HIM AS "MANAGING EDITOR, TRUTHOUT.ORG") (Pitt is associated with former UN weapons inspector and more recently, wanna-be child molester Scott Ritter, who has been outspoken against US policy on Iraq.)

JULY 9, 2003 11:29 PM : (PITT POSTS ON CAPITOLGRILLING.COM, ACKNOWLEDGING JAPAN TODAY ACQUIRED CHB ARTICLE FROM TRUTHOUT.ORG) Not sure if this has been posted here, or not...

Yeah, Japan Today got it from us. I guess they 'stole' it, too since they never asked permission. They got screwed by this cluster f*** the same way we did. We're running the CHB retraction tomorrow.
William Rivers Pitt posted 07-09-2003 11:29 PM

"Stole it, too?" Gotta love that. Scroll all the way to the bottom of that page. Credit to TLBSHOW, for finding and sourcing that post, BTW. 832 posted on 07/10/2003 10:29 AM PDT by Sabertooth

JULY 10, 2003 : 11:51 AM : (CHB'S DOUG THOMPSON ANNOUNCES HE WILL USE NO MORE UNNAMED SOURCES; CLAIMS HE TURNED THE MATTER OVER TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, , BUT DELETES 6 OF THOSE ARTICLES FROM CHB SITE) - "A message from Capitol Hill Blue. . .No more "unnamed sources," DOUG THOMPSON, Jul 10, 2003, 11:51

"Recently, this web site discovered it has been played as a sucker by a source that was used in seven stories that ran in Capitol Hill Blue from September 2002 until July of 2003. The person in question was quoted as an unnamed source in six of the seven articles and by name (Terrance J. Wilkinson) in the seventh. We later learned the name was bogus even though I had known (or thought I knew) the person by that name for more than 20 years. We have turned all our information on this source over to the appropriate law enforcement agencies and, at their instruction, will not discuss the matter publicly until they have concluded their investigations. When those investigations are complete, we will publish a full accounting with every piece of detail that we can produce or uncover about the individual involved. We owe that to our readers."

JULY ? 2003 Sunday early : (WILSON'S NY TIMES OP ED ARTICLE CLAIMS SOME INTEL ON IRAQ'S NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM WAS SEXED UP) Last week, Wilson cited his inability to confirm an Iraq-Niger nuke connection to conclude in the Times: "Some of the intelligence related to Iraq's nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the nuclear threat."
But if, as Wilson told "Hannity & Colmes" in October, he believed Saddam indeed had an "aggressive" nuclear program at the time, his claim that Bush distorted the nuclear threat seems disingenuous at best. The diplomat who set off a political firestorm last week when he told the New York Times that President Bush may have "exaggerated" when he told the nation that Iraq sought nuclear fuel in Africa admitted last October that he believed Saddam Hussein had "an aggressive program to try and get" nuclear weapons. Though former acting U.S. ambassador to Iraq Joseph C. Wilson's op-ed in the Times warned that Bush might have led the U.S. to war "under false pretenses" by ginning up a bogus nuclear threat, he was singing a different tune during an appearance on Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes" nine months ago. - "Bush Nuke Basher Admitted Saddam Sought the Bomb ," by Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff, NewsMax.com, 7/14/03

JULY 14, 2003 : (NOVAK SAYS "UNNAMED SOURCES" TELL HIM THAT VALERIE PLUME IS AN AGENCY OPERATIVE ON WMD) "Wilson never worked for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction. Two senior administration officials told me Wilson's wife suggested sending him to Niger to investigate the Italian report. The CIA says its counter-proliferation officials selected Wilson and asked his wife to contact him. "I will not answer any question about my wife," Wilson told me. " - Source : Robert Novak, "Mission to Niger" on TownHall.com, 7/14/03