Peterson, Frey had frequent contact

The Modesto Bee ^ | Sept 25, 2003 | John Cote' and Garth Stapely

[STOCKHRSE]

"lateI hope Geragos and his traveling circus underestimate them, too. But I doubt Geragos will; he knows better."

Those bastards at MPD will never be underestimated by me;They are dangerous and deserving of careful observation. They lie and falsify evidence and compromise witnesses routinely. They lie about the existence of witnesses at preliminary hearings. If you tink I'm wrong call them and report me;I would love to put all these things in the paper before the prelim.

I remember I sent you a copy you read it,or said you did, and sent a Freepmail which said,"Ray, You said it was bad and you were right it is bad"

Velveeta took the trouble to read it and said essentially the same thing. No I think she said It as shocking.

I mean I'm over it and could care less. Those AH's are in CA., and I am not and thats lovely.If no one mentions them again neither will I, probably. It is not my job to clean-up CA. But I have been known to take on extra work when povoked.

"If there are four murdered women in that jurisdiction and their bodies have never been found, how do we know they are really dead, and that they didn't just leave the area?"

OHHHH try reading about them on the website. That might work.

"If the DA held them off, if they wanted to go get Scott even b/f the bodies were found, it's b/c the DA knows that prosecuting him w/o the bodies and losing would be absolutely fatal to the case, and then if the bodies turned up, perhaps w/ incontrovertible evidence against Scott on them... everyone would be screaming as Scott walked, protected by the double jeopardy clause. Gotta know when to hold it, etc."

You are exactly right now but you were wrong when you said they had this BOMBSHELL and this action shows they don't or didn't on that date at any rate, They may have it now and I hope they do. I just don't think so.

"You can see the defense holding back? Yes, I could see that, too. So why DON'T they?? Instead, they were making fools of themselves. The schism btw Dalton and Geragos tells us a LOT about the state of Scott's defense, IMO"

Simply, my dear, b/c it is the Prosecution that presents it's case first in a criminal Court trial, Remember? Or at least that's what I thougt I learned......;-) Is this what is known as a pissing contest?....;-0)

"I don't see why Laci couldn't have walked the dog, and then been killed by Scott. I don't see why she couldn't very well have been alive as the 24th began--but still have been killed by Scott. Scott's whereabouts, as far as I know, are unknown for most of Dec. 24--unless I want to take his word for where he was all day."

Surely we agree on this perfectly reasonable presentation and he could have done it alone, By going the way I am me thunks if dere is anoter monkey or two in the wood pile we may stand a better chance of exposing them. Maybe....

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"How convenient that that couple, the Maldonados, serve as not only "witnesses" who saw Laci alive, but also "witnesses" to the tan van in the neighborhood. I call that economy!"

"The teacher dude, he was a strange, kind of weird, liberal-nut-looking kind of guy. Be that as it may, he absolutely said that he could NOT identify who/whatever he saw near the dog as Laci, only as "someone who seemed round". He freely admitted he didn't get a look at a person, only at the dog. And he wasn't even too clear about the dog."

"The Mitchells... lol... you already know all about them, and her standing at the sink doing dishes, an 80-something woman recovering from hip surgery... and him, watching football games when there were absolutely ZERO football games of any kind on the tube."

"Some have suggested that Scott did see one of the pregnant ladies (Kristen Dempewolf?) around on the morning of the 24th, wearing black pants and white shirt, and that that was why he listed black pants/white shirt as "what Laci was last seen wearing.""

Sure I heard all those things. I heard them from the neurotics who thought they were fine witnesses as long as they were looking at a Laci look-alike.

The look-alike DA came forwrd and said she was not dog walking Dec.24th AM, and that she had told MPD that when they asked months before;Thus she exposed the fraud and deceit by MPD and for some neurotic reason it interfered with the titillations of projecting freepers and they turned on the witnesses who were jut telling the same story as always. Wierd Huh? he, he he



"BBL!"
Whatever, whenever.....;-0)

[STOCKHRSE]

Ergo, when a policeman sees a habitual offender commit a crime, can the HABITUAL OFFENDER use your argument as a defense since this new discovery is soo well proven.and the policeman had seen him rob15 banks before this one.

You see there is this thng in law that says its principles must be applied equally to all.

[drjulie]

To answer your question...yes, I think it is a problem if the only piece of evidence that we have is eyewitness testimony. As a juror, I would much rather have a good circumstantial case than a case that hinges on what someone "saw". Although, encoding and correctly storing a novel, shocking event is different than an event that is routine and not novel. However, I would guess that we have more than eyewitness testimony in most cases. In this case we would look at the totality of the evidence - if the police have some evidence that she didn't walk her dog in the park that evidence may be given more weight than what a group of eyewitnesses say. All evidence (including eyewitnesses) needs to be scrutinized in a court of law. In this case I am just as skeptical about witnesses who claim they saw Scott at the marina (or anywhere else for that matter).

[Velveeta]

Oct. 14th National Enquirer (Courtesy Rickamorti from Purgatory forum)

Scott Peterson Planned Escape

Accused killer tried to buy car on sly

picture: copy of waiver of liability on form also ad for car

by Don Gentile

synopsis

The Enquirer has uncovered shocking new proof Scott Peterson was getting ready to run from the law just days before his wife Laci and unborn son Conner were found.

Shortly before his April 18 arrest, Scott Peterson bought a used car in San Diego near his parents home and told the seller his name was "Jacqueline Peterson."
"I asked him whether he was French or something," substitue teacher Mike Griffin, who sold Scott the 1984 Mercedes coupe, told the NE.

Peterson replied: "It's a name my parents hung on me, kind of a boy- named Sue type of thing." Continuing his lie, Scott added that people just called him Jack. Jacqueline Peterson is the name of Scott's mother.

San Diego criminal attorney David Bartick called Scott's attempt to hide his identity a strong indication he was getting ready to flee the country.

Why is he not revealing his identity? It is the type of evidence that can be used by prosecutors to show there was an intent to flee," Bartick told the NE. "he doesn't want to be associated with that car, so there would be no official trace to him."

As the NE previously reported, Peterson had discovered a global-positioning device police secretly installed in his truck. He knew cops were tracking him. "Authorities believe that's the reason he purchased another vehicle- one he could escape in," disclosed a police insider.

Peterson bought the Mercedes from Griffin on April 12- the day before the body of Scott's unborn child Conner washed up in San Francisco Bay and 2 days before Laci's remains came ashore a mile away.

Griffin did not recognize Scott when he showed up at his San Diego condo to answer an ad he'd placed. Scott took the car for a test drive, then bargained to get a good price- $3,600. He left, then returned only two hours later with 36 hundred-dollar bills.

Griffin had already filled out and signed the Notice of Transfer and Release of Liability form that California requires for sale of a used car.

Scott printed, "Jacqueline Peterson" in the boxes on the form for the buyers name and had 10 days to register the transfer with the state.

Suspecting something amiss, Griffin asked Peterson if he had a drivers license. "He never showed me one but gave me a number - J0880056- and said it was a Florida driver's license that expired on Oct. 24, 2004 (Scott's birthday), Griffin told the NE.

Clearly, the devious murder suspect had made up that number! Florida licenses have a letter followed, by 12 digits.

The fertilizer salesman from Modesto had messed up- trapping himself in his own growing web of deceit.

[sandydipper]

Scott needs to get a "fair" trial and then he should be turned over to us and then we could beat the dog crap outa him and hang his sorry ass.

[Devil_Anse]

Good to see you, Jackie!

[Devil_Anse]

Yes! The offender CAN use that argument as a defense!

[Devil_Anse]

We can talk about eyewitness testimony, you guys, but we must not forget that that's something we DON'T HAVE in this case! There is no known eyewitness to Laci's murder, other than Laci and the person who killed her.

Before we agonize too much over whether the eyewitnesses are accurate or not, let's remember that whether or not Laci was seen walking the dog on Dec. 24 is NOT proof positive of anything at this point.

[Devil_Anse]

I'm so glad you are here to get us these tabloid articles! Standing there trying to read and load the groceries on the belt at the same time is a real drag! Besides, I like the tabloid articles better than the "legitimate" ones, b/c the tabloids are not afraid to come out and SAY something, though I admit that "sources close to" is a bit thin as to proof of what they say.

Hey, why didn't Scott give his name as LEE PETERSON? Lee wouldn't have done anything to him for using HIS name, would he? It makes me think that Jackie is really the only one of the pack who is Scott's booster/enabler ALWAYS, and who would never turn on him no matter what.

[RGSpincich]

Thanks, Vel. These brief insights into "Scott's World" are amazing.

[Sandylapper]

Thanks for the article, Vel! Hummnnn...so, the seller of the car is talking! Wonder if he'll be a witness for the prosecution?

[Canadian Outrage]

Rusty: Eyewitnesses are the "least" reliable type of evidence. More people have been WRONGLY convicted by eyewitnesses than anything else. In the case of Laci, I seem to recall that she was my height - 5'2"!! She not only had swollen ankles and sore feet, she was having trouble breathing!! There is No blasted way she went for a walk in that rugged Park. I was a mess the last month of my pregnancies. I couldn't even see my feet or get into or out of the bathtub by myself. I had to sleep half sitting up. A walk down a rugged path - Not a chance in my case. Also, it makes NO sense that she would leave her cell phone. Her purse perhaps, NOT the phone.!!

[Canadian Outrage]

I think it was Laci's maid that mopped the floor on the 23rd.!!

[Canadian Outrage]

Sandy if Snott really was involved in the Meth business even as a supplier of one of the key ingredients, Amber would have a problem being a Main witness against the drug world's big supplier.!! Whether or not it was the nazi low riders or not, I can't say. However, Scott Peterson had a definite DOUBLE life. The life outside of his life with Laci would appear to be the absolute opposite end of the spectrum. I wonder what Mr. Lee Peterson is gonna have to say about his "perfect" son when he learns about his criminal activities?!! Should be interesting huh?

[Canadian Outrage]

Julie you explained that very well. That is exactly what I was getting at. Eyewitnesses, the ones who aren't just attempting to insert themselves into a high profile case for a few minutes before the camera, REALLY believe that they saw what they think they saw. They may be very sincere but sincerely wrong. More men have been freed with DNA evidence years after being convicted of various offenses such as rape, etc. by adamant eyewitnesses.!!

[MaggieMay]

Thanks for posting the NE article.

In addition, bone found yesterday was animal.
link
http://www.ktvu.com/index.html

[Canadian Outrage]

Wouldn't that be fun???!!!! I would relish taking part in THAT scenario.

[Canadian Outrage]

Very good point Dev. Why not LEE Peterson. Jacqueline Peterson and then an elaborate lie is just over the top. Just like most of his other actions.

[Canadian Outrage]

BUMMER Mags. Oh well, we still don't KNOW WHAT, if anything, that LE found in their last search of the Bay last week. For all we know, they could have conducted other searches under the radar, as well. I'm hoping and praying that they have anchor(s) that match Snott's cement mix and remaining anchors that he made. Remember he cannot account for three of the five anchors. I wish they could retrieve one of the anchors with a shin or arm bone of Laci's attached. That would be Game OVER!!

[Jackie-O]

I think that either one of them would do anything for Snotty. Jackie puts on this big "oh I need my oxygen" act, and does anything to try to get some good press, trying to elicit sympathy. It usually backfires on her, at least from my perspective. For example, when the Rochas had Laci and Connor's private burial, the one that the Petersons were NOT invited to...all of a sudden the press has a copy of a self serving e-mail...how in the world did they get ahold of that??? And I always refer to the interview in their driveway when she gave a lengthy interview without her apparatus and when things got a little hot under the collar for her, she askes for her oxygen. Everything that woman does is self serving...a lesson well learned by Snotty...