Some Catholic students rejecting liberal peers

THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | September 22-28, 2003 | Julia Duin

[Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS]

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[hilaryrhymeswithrich]

Thank you for posting this. I went to Loyola University in Chicago and would NEVER pay for my kids to go to a "catholic" like that. It suited me fine when I wanted a moral vaccum but it did nothing to help foster my catholicism. I'll be looking at small schools like the ones mentioned here for my kids.

[Rodney King]

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[madprof98]

. . . similar to that of the monasteries of the Dark Ages: trying to maintain vestiges of civilization in the face of the barbarians of modernity.

Exactly right. Sadly, the barbarians own and operate many of the schools faithful Catholics paid for long ago. One of my sons went to Georgetown, and he had to practically beg a resident priest to intervene to save a freshman roommate who was trying to kill himself. The official line was that "in loco parentis" no longer applied. As the years went on, that fact was increasingly evident--in curriculum as well as campus life.

[Nebr FAL owner]

The folks running these schools IMHO are the equivalent to the monastaries of the dark ages ,there is still hope for Western Civillization .

[longtermmemmory]

"in loco parentis" would easily be applied to a leftist issue a student might have. Any doubt the kind of support a school would give a student who was "guided" to homosexuality and needed to "come out" to his parents? If a so called conservative issue, the student would basically be told tough luck.

How about finding enough financial aid loans if parents cut off students because of "X"?

[virgil]

Trying to teach people to think? What a marvelous idea. What you have these days is students being taught to mindlessly disagree with conventions and then passing that off as thinking.

[longtermmemmory]

I know when the time comes, morality WILL be an issue. There will be no basions of deviancy like "berkly" for my dollars.

[NYer]

"I went to a Catholic high school where I had to defend my faith to my professors," he says. "My principal was a lesbian living with her partner, and the priest [at the school] was a lunatic."

Catholic parents today are torn between "value based" education (once) offered by catholic schools or the "gub'ment" institutions where radicals like GLSEN run rampant. Apparently, the only difference is that the catholic school charges big bucks for the privilege of teaching dissenting doctrine.

Ave Maria College is an up and rapidly growing CATHOLIC college, faithful to its heritage and teachings.

[Almondjoy]

Interesting.. I thought you might want to let your kids have a say in where they go.

[GreatOne]

I went to Creighton University in Omaha, NE, and although I got a great education, the "Catholic" part of the education I thought I was getting was virtually non-existent. I quickly learned the difference between a "Catholic" and a "Jesuit". By my senior year in college, it was mandated that all of the resident advisors (floor monitors) would have to have pink triangles on their dorm doors to demonstrate that they were "gay friendly."

[Kieri]

My husband and I are friends with one of the professors (an Oxford, England doctorate) and his wife, the school's librarian. They are VERY PROUD of the fact that Ave Maria is a conservative college, and are adamant to keep it that way.

[ladylib]

There are actually schools popping up all over the country (private, Christian, charter, and homeschooling) which actually teach students how to think using something called the trivium -- grammar stage, logic stage, and rhetoric stage.

Unfortunately, in many of today's public schools (private schools too), students are asked to give their opinions about subjects without studying the facts and using the facts to make a cohesive and intelligent argument.

[nickcarraway]

Jesuits Reminded of Their Special Bond to the Pope

[hilaryrhymeswithrich]

That is only true to a certain extent. If they want total say, they can totally pay. I do not consider college to be a light decision to make and expect, along with my dollars, to have my direction be part of the process. I chose a college my parents did not support and paid my own way. My choice, my student loans. In retrospect, my mother's advice should have been followed.

[f.Christian]

I have an Evangelical Irish Christian friend ... whose brother I met was an elderly Catholic priest at a University in Kansas and He told me the hardest thing is to hear these kid's confessions and not be judgemental --- whew !

I wouldn't say anything to add to this poor man's grief - suffering - sorrow !

[Almondjoy]

Whatever floats your boat I guess.. so if they decide to go to University of California at Berkeley because it has one of the best MBA programs in the country I would assume you would make them pay for it on their own because it's too liberal a school. I pity you.

[traditionalist]

I think he's talking about undergraduate education. What kind of an MBA program a university has is is irrelevent to its undergraduate program's merits.

[Almondjoy]

Possibly but I doubt it. Anyone who would hold their own kids opinions against them is unconsicenceable anyways.