Srebrenica Casualty Numbers Challenged by Experts as Politicized and Ethnically Divisive

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/decani/message/77206 ^ | September 20, 2003 | The International Strategic Studies Association (ISSA)

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

What are multi-ethnic loving Bosnians doing issuing Muslim identification cards?>>

Identification cards with traditional Muslim first names. As anybody with the slightest knowledge of Bosnia knows, Muslims tend to have Muslim first names, Croats have Catholic saint-names, and Serb Orthodox saint names.

Your bloodthirst is only exceeded by your stupidity, Destro me boy. Now go away.

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

Since when did the European Bosnian Muslims start wearing such apparel? Gotcha in a lie!!!>>

Muslims in Bosnia, particularly very old men (of the sort hunted down and murdered like dogs by SERB nazi exterminators) tend to wear traditional national clothing, particularly peasant trowsers and buttonless shirts.

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

I strongly suggest you educate yourself on the subject and remain silent until you do. Bosnian Serb Nazis, not to mention Destro, are counting on you to apply the hostility we rightly feel against the Qaida terrorists to the helpless children and old men whose murder they celebrate and support.

[Destro]

The Bosnian men of all ethnicities wore the same clothes which are not "Islamic" second of all you mention Muslim ID cards - no such thing-no such Muslim clothing either.

Check out these Serbs:

[Hoplite]

Nice Fez homeboy has on there.

[Destro]

actually its not a fez.

[Itzlzha]

I strongly suggest you educate yourself on the subject and remain silent until you do.

And I strongly suggest you and Hoplite take your Islamazi-loving crap and bow to it 3 times daily!

We are in World War III, and Islamazis are the BAD GUYS HERE!

Y'know what...Bosnia was Klinon's war, and ANYTHING that charlatan Wormtongue was involved with was 180 degrees off from the TRUTH!

Until the supposed "Moderate" Islamazis rise up and take back their perverted supposed religion from the Wahhabists (which they will never do, as they are part of the Jihadist culture as much as Al Queda), they are my ENEMY, and well be treated accordingly!

Wait till the war comes home to the Islamazis in Bosnia...I believe Russia will have a small say in how the Islamazis are handled.

Interesting you support those who wear explosive into public area and blow up Jewish children...but cry a river when these left-hand-A$$wipers start a war and get hit back...seems to be a Islamazi trait, just like the scumbag Pali's do it!

Tell your crap somewhere else...we all still bear the scars of your "Religion of Peace" treacherous ba$stards LAST effort in the US...we now share with the jews the following sentiment...

NEVER AGAIN!

[Hoplite]

Clinton bad so Milosevic good.

Quite the intellectual, aren't you?

[Hoplite]

It's not a fez?

But you just said...

Take note of his shoes too - you won't find either Croats or Muslims wearing traditional Serbian Peasant shoes - they're the basis of a derogatory term for Bosnia's Serbs - something along the lines of 'pointy toes', if memory serves.

[Dr. Frank fan]

The guilt that comes from knowingly supporting war crimes in print.

I see. And, I understand your ensuing explanation.

However, in Post #7, you had used the phrase somewhat differently, by my reading anyway: "Anything to deny Serb blood guilt." This seems to imply that joan et al are denying not their own "blood guilt", but the (supposed) "blood guilt" which is "Serb", i.e. the "blood guilt" of Serbs as an ethnicity.

So based on the definition of "blood guilt" you've given me, I find myself still confused. Do you mean to say, then, that the "Serb blood guilt" which joan et al are denying is that they (Serbs) knowingly supported war crimes in print? All of them?

Or what?

I guess I need to ask a follow-up question, then: What is "Serb blood guilt"?

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

We are in World War III, and Islamazis are the BAD GUYS HERE! >>

Whol told you it was WWIII? The only people who believe that are OBL and his islamonazi crazies. You actually buy into that $#!+? Wrong answer. (Actually we WON WWIII on Christmas Day 1991, when the Soviet rag came down from over the Kremlin. This isn't WWIV, either; this is a campaign against a band of international pirates and the scattered regimes who pay for their plastique.)

Y'know what...Bosnia was Klinon's war, and ANYTHING that charlatan Wormtongue was involved with was 180 degrees off from the TRUTH! >>

Actually Bosnia was the ONLY thing that the rapist did right. Again, the stopped clock principle at work. We stopped the Serb Nazis from turning Bosnia into an Al Qaida base, which is what they would have left it: a tiny Bosnian Muslim bantustan national island around Tuzla whom nobody but Saudis would have supported. They would have radicalized the Muslims there. We stopped it and made sure that an internationally connected Bosnia with all three ethnicities forced to live together at peace would be prevented.

We are NOT at war against all of Islam. Nobody wants us to go to war against All of Islam, except Osama and company and a few of Milosevic's ganymedes, like Destro here. I suggest you think carefully before you go down that road.

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

We stopped it and made sure that an internationally connected Bosnia with all three ethnicities forced to live together at peace would be prevented. >>

...would be *maintained*, of course. Typo.

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

I guess I need to ask a follow-up question, then: What is "Serb blood guilt"?>>

Not Serbs as an ethnicity. There is no such thing as collective guilt; we are each of us guilty of our own sins, either those we actively participate in or which we passively ascede to. When a man is murdered by members of a rampaging mob, the killers have direct guilt, but everyone who stands by and cheers absorb some of the blood guilt too.

Serbs and Serbians as an ethnicity have no more "blood guilt" than anyone else. But those Serbs who robbed their neighbors and raped their daughters have GOBS of guilt to go around. Our "Serbocrazies" here on FR--which I have already and repeatedly defined as not Serbs or Serbians as a group but those individual crazies, such as Destro, who support the mass murder of the helpless at Srebrenica and elsewhere--have the same guilt attached to them that Nazi propagandists have of Nazi crimes. Anyone who supports mass murder as such is to an extent guilty of association with those crimes, and have much to answer for before a just God.

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

Tell your crap somewhere else...we all still bear the scars of your "Religion of Peace" treacherous ba$stards LAST effort in the US...we now share with the jews the following sentiment...

NEVER AGAIN!>>>

What, aside from watching 9/11 on TV, did it cost you? It nearly cost me everything. Doesn't change the objective truth of what happened, either at Srebrenica or afterwards.

[Destro]

I said fez?

[F.J. Mitchell]

Are you saying that the Muslim's are the real victems?

You should try your hand at stand up commedy.

[Dr. Frank fan]

That answers my question, thanks. (And I agree with you.) Best,

[Hoplite]

Just out of curiosity, what do you know about the war in Bosnia?

Indulge me here - the Serb nationalists are doing what the Russians wish they could have done in 1979 - get our buy in to their war of aggression by selling it as something it wasn't, with articles like the one at the head of this thread, to make a case in point.

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

Are you saying that the Muslim's are the real victems?
>>

In Bosnia, they were, without question and without doubt. History is very clear as to what the real story was there: Milosevic turned from Communist to Nazi overnight, and took Serbia with him--the point being, by jumping up and down and screaming "muslim muslim muslim", he and his catamites kept the people stupid and compliant and kept them from voting for non-Communists to replace him (and thus, kept anyone from looking at his books). It was, essentially, just like the Old South, where the political leaders screamed "segregation" to keep from being voted out of office.

In America, we got rid of them through forced integration and the Voting Rights Act. In Serbia, we got rid of them by defeating Slobo militarily in Kosovo--shamed him to the point where he was overthrown and eventually sent to the Hague for judgment.

Downside of course is that we now have to babysit the Kosova mess, but hey, Slobo created the mess in the first place by unleasing Arkan's Tigers there.

It's ugly, but it's true.

[dennisw]

Who gives a flip. There were enough atrocities on all sides. It was a war between Islamics and Serb Christians. I will support the Christian side. I will support anyone who battles Islamic irridentism.

Bottom line is your side won with the Clinton/Clark bombing campaign. So now Kosovo is solid Muslim, same for Bosnia. Happy now?