Posted on 09/20/2003 12:39:19 PM PDT by Pokey78
Where did Bush say he saw the first plane hit? Obviously, he saw the second plane hit.
Then, after you do that,
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Bob J.: Where did Bush say he saw the first plane hit? Obviously, he saw the second plane hit.I'm sorry, but you're wrong. You can read his words verbatim from both the press conferences. He referred to the first plane hitting the first tower each time he told the story. He repeated the story a second time.
Dec. 4, 2001: "And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident."
It obviously had to be the first plane, because the second plane didn't hit the building until he was inside, speaking to the class.
Jan. 5, 2002: "First of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on. And you know, I thought it was pilot error, and I was amazed that anybody could make such a terrible mistake...."
--Raoul
I believe it boils down to what everyone knew in the immediate moments of the first plane hitting the building. Also, the president's role in leading our nation may not be as "hands on", as people would like to believe. I am sure the president was aware and concerned, but his excusing himself from the room, disappointing the students and rushing off to... WHERE?
Where would he rush off to? What could he do? He knew a plane hit the World Trade Center. Yes, so did lots of people. Did this mean that every other American could have DONE SOMETHING?
The president should have... oh, hopped on Air Force One and fly to....? Where, again? Where should he have flown to? We all know the details about how he hopscotched across the country, because Air Force One was targeted, and the Secret Service wouldn't allow him to return to the White House.
You may like to envision the president being in control... and he WAS. His making a grand statement, and rushing out the door would have signified that he WASN'T in control, that he was only hastily reacting to the chain of events. Is that how you would want to think of your president?
Or, should he have gone on television immediately, bit his lip, and asked the world to pray for America, because we have been wounded?
The allusion that the president was just enjoying the storytime, not thinking of the plane accident, or a myriad of other items on his mind that morning, is ridiculous. No one truly knows the behind the scene machinations that the White House and the Bush Administration were going through, step by step. We only have bits and pieces of the entire package, told by different eye witnesses to all of the events.
And, I do believe, that the film footage you see of the president, when Andy Card whispers in his ear is to tell him, the SECOND plane had hit the WTC. At that moment, everything changes, because this is an attack, not a random accident, like the first one was hoped to be.
It is easy to sit here and critique the president and say what he SHOULD have done in those initial moments of September 11th. But tell me, even if he did do what everyone likes to think what they themselves would do, if placed in this situation... tell me how this changes anything else that happened on that day? Or how it is relevent, and proves that he was ineffectual in his role as president?
I know you read here at FR. You can't help yourself. We can now officially add you to the nut bag LW fuitloop conspiracy kook club.
This is false. Nobody saw the jetliner crash into the first tower on television until a videotape surfaced a day later. What's more, Bush's memory not only contradicts every media report of that morning, it also contradicts what he said on the day of the attack. In his speech to the nation that evening, Bush said, "Immediately following the first attack, I implemented our government's emergency response plans."
If someone says "I saw the airplane crash into the building" it could easily mean he saw the building after an airplane crashed into it...Most people (normal people) talk this way...If one saw a car wreck ...they might say "I saw a wreck" when all they saw was the aftermath not the actual cars hitting...
Also If you say "after the first attack" that is not necessarily after the first building is attacked ...it is after both buildings were attacked ...The two towers (plural) made up "the first attack"...especially since it was unclear what had happened till both buildings were hit.....The second was the pentagon, the third crashed in Pennsylvania.
In short the author is full of it
Pan_Yans Wife: What I meant to ask was whether or not the videotape of the first plane hitting the building was available on the Se[tember 11th?I understand your confusion. All those events blurred for all of us on that horrible day. The answer is that the videotape of the plane hitting the first tower, shot by the French newsman, was given to the media much later that afternoon after he got back to the fire station where he started. It was shown on TV many hours after the original crash at 8:48 that morning. So Bush could not have seen it live before he walked into the classroom. No one saw the videotape on TV at 8:48. Many people did see the crash in person, however, and called in to local TV stations who then alerted the networks.
Many people have wondered why the president claimed that he saw the crash before he went into the classroom. As I posted in the links 59 and 66 above, his verbatim words are available from the actual White House transcripts of his new conferences. He told the story originally on Dec. 4, 2001, and then repeated it on Jan. 5, 2002. He clearly said that he viewed it live, as you will see from the transcript: "First of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building."
Perhaps he just confused it in his mind later on. The strange thing is that someone on his staff did not tell him after that first press conference that he had misspoke. Or especially after he repeated it. But there is obviously no grand conspiracy here. He was just obviously confused. Too bad the yes-men around him didn't speak up and that he didn't clarify his obvious mistake.
--Raoul
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