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Copyright infringement complaint from The Onion
Email from The Onion | 09/19/03 | Sean Mills

Posted on 09/19/2003 1:33:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Jim Robinson
Jim,

My parody news articles, posted here, may not be reproduced in any way on The Onion. Furthermore, they are instructed to remove any material that infringes on the copyrights I possess on these materials. I know The Onion is eager to cooperate, but they should know that I will not hesitate to enforce my rights.

Laz
81 posted on 09/19/2003 2:15:39 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Good. I have lost my patience with things that are supposed to be clever and funny anyway. (They must be a bit short of pieces of eight.)
82 posted on 09/19/2003 2:15:51 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Jim Robinson
Is it permissable to post an excerpt from The Onion, with a link, such as we would do for the LATimes or WashPO?
83 posted on 09/19/2003 2:16:36 PM PDT by gridlock (All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11/01)
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To: alisasny
Thank GOD. Your mindless drivel was clogging up our Free Republic boards and distracting from our message at hand.

Is my mindless drivel still okay?

84 posted on 09/19/2003 2:16:51 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Jim Robinson
See also, from :
The Onion Is No Joke
How a diversified media company built on sardonic, topical humor has managed -- against all odds -- to become a serious business.

The claim sounds almost outlandish enough to be a headline on the Onion: "Satire Website Shows Profit." But it's true, and the site it describes is none other than TheOnion.com, the scathingly funny lampoon of current events and news coverage thereof.

For seven years TheOnion.com has been calling out the absurdities of our world -- "Executive Quits Fast Track to Spend More Time With Possessions" -- and has built a fanatical readership of 1.3 million a month. Beneath the mordant wit, the Onion has also built a solid business that survived the dotcom crash...

(The REST of that article is only available for Business 2.0 subscribers.)

85 posted on 09/19/2003 2:17:07 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm tempted to post a punchline, but this is too serious.

Having their stuff here did nothing for them except increase their site traffic. I had never heard of them before I saw a piece posted here years ago, and I've been back to their place hundreds of times since. Oh well, they don't have to permit use of their stuff, and I don't have to visit their site.

86 posted on 09/19/2003 2:17:43 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: 4mycountry
There goes your fav threads, eh?

Not really. I've got a publishing relationship with Nate from BSNN, and maybe I'll just ramp up my authoring of satirical articles. Nothing like a little direct competition, hey, Cry Vegetables?

87 posted on 09/19/2003 2:18:30 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: mountaineer
post an excerpt and link to the full article.

I agree. Of course, I am also against file 'sharing'...

88 posted on 09/19/2003 2:18:41 PM PDT by Jack Wilson
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To: Jim Robinson
Dear Mr. Mills:

I hope your 'cease and desist' letter to Free Republic was in jest. Postings of The Onion's articles at Free Republic can only be good for The Onion's circulation and its web-site traffic (where there are banner ads). Please consider retracting the letter and writing an article for your next issue: "Onion Lawyers Get Lesson in Marketing".

Sincerely,

(me)

p.s. Did you send a similar letter to the Democratic Underground forum or was this politically motivated?
89 posted on 09/19/2003 2:21:19 PM PDT by Roarkdude (no tag line entered)
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To: Lazamataz
We have so many creative artists on FR that we never needed the Onion stuff in the first place.

90 posted on 09/19/2003 2:22:18 PM PDT by alisasny
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To: RonDog
(The REST of that article is only available for Business 2.0 subscribers.)
The rest of that Business 2.0 article **is** reprinted on the CNN website here:

The Onion: Funny site is no joke

A diversified media company built on sardonic, topical humor

By Geoff Keighley
Business 2.0
Friday, August 29, 2003 Posted: 2037 GMT ( 4:37 AM HKT)

The Onion's staff stuck to their cheapskate alt-weekly roots while others adopted go-go dotcom thinking.
The Onion's staff stuck to their cheapskate alt-weekly roots while other sites adopted go-go dotcom thinking.

Business 2.0) -- The claim sounds almost outlandish enough to be a headline on the Onion: "Satire Web site Shows Profit." But it's true, and the site it describes is none other than TheOnion.com, the scathingly funny lampoon of current events and news coverage thereof.

For seven years TheOnion.com has been calling out the absurdities of our world -- "Executive Quits Fast Track to Spend More Time With Possessions" -- and has built a fanatical readership of 1.3 million a month. Beneath the mordant wit, the Onion has also built a solid business that survived the dotcom crash.

When the online advertising collapse drove other ad-supported content sites into oblivion (remember Word.com or NBCi?) or forced them to experiment with subscriptions and premium pricing (à la Salon and TheStreet.com), the Onion managed to stick to its original business model and weather the tough times.

Of course, it had help: The Onion grew out of a weekly alternative newspaper of the same name and was able to fall back on the revenues from that and a successful line of books during the direst stretch. Thanks to a management philosophy that owes more to its cheapskate alt-weekly roots than to go-go dotcom thinking, the Onion in all its forms now generates $7 million a year in revenue and a small profit.

Long road to profitability

The Onion has come a long way since its founding in 1988. Back then, Tim Keck and Chris Johnson, two University of Wisconsin juniors, took an $8,000 loan from Keck's mom and launched the Onion with a couple of friends as a free humor rag published in their dorm.

The paper made money in its very first year, and Keck and Johnson, perhaps thinking their luck couldn't last, quickly cashed out. In 1989 they sold the weekly to two of their Onion colleagues, Scott Dikkers and Peter Haise, for $19,000. By 1994 the paper was a local hit, reportedly generating $1 million a year in ad revenue and a few hundred thousand dollars in profit.

Still, the publication remained a Midwestern secret until 1996, when it launched its site and instantly gained international recognition. One headline in particular, "Clinton Deploys Vowels to Bosnia: Cities of Sjlbvdnzv, Grzny to Be First Recipients," got the site the kind of attention you can't pay for. The spoof was passed around the Net like a virus, and the guys at NPR's Car Talk also picked up the story and read it on the air in its entirety. The Onion's reputation was made.

Yet even after the Onion hit it big on the Web, the company stayed low-key. The writers still dreamed up their headlines (at the Onion, headlines come first) in a Madison, Wisconsin, office building and earned about $25,000 a year. One former Onion writer, Dan Vebber, who now works as a TV comedy writer in Hollywood, says money was never what motivated the staff. "There was something about growing up in the Midwest in blue-collar families that made us all pretty stunned we were able to make a living putting words on paper," he says. "To this day, I think a lot of the writers are still shell-shocked they are getting paid to do something they love."

When the dotcom crash hit and the Onion's online revenue disappeared, its diverse business model -- including the newspaper and Our Dumb Century, a best-selling book -- helped it squeak through. Today newspaper ads from its five regional editions still account for 50 percent of the company's revenue, compared with about 30 percent from Web advertising. (The rest comes from book proceeds, a few thousand subscribers to the paper, and other businesses.)

Moving on up

THE ONION'S LAYERS
The company's diversified model has helped it survive the dotcom collapse. Its annual revenues are now $7 million.

Things began to turn around in the fall of 2000, when, under pressure from the writers, the company moved to New York. There the Onion found a new investor: David Schafer, a businessman who had managed the $2.5 billion Strong Schafer Value Fund. "The Onion's strong point was never accounting, financial management, or business," Schafer admits. "Buying it was a bit of a shot in the dark, but we felt we could get a handle on it."

He did that by bringing on Sean Mills, who had run an interactive advertising agency in San Francisco. The first thing the new president did was revamp the ad-sales strategy. During the dotcom boom, ads flowed into the Onion without much coaxing from sales reps. But the flow had stopped, so Mills sent reps out to build relationships with ad agencies.

That change and a new willingness to accept rich-media ads have helped the Onion replace fallen dotcom advertisers with such blue chips as DreamWorks, HBO, Nike, and Volkswagen. The strategy worked: The Onion is profitable again, although publisher Chris Cranmer admits no one's getting rich. "It's really the middle ground," she says. "We get to make a decent amount of money but have a large amount of happiness."

With Schafer's continued backing, Mills expects to grow the company about 25 percent a year for the next five years. There's talk of adding new paper editions in San Francisco, Minneapolis, and Boston. Also in the works is an Onion movie, written by the staff and set to be produced by David Zucker of Naked Gun fame. And while the Web site's weekly review of the news will remain free, a premium subscription service is in the works to give die-hard readers an extra helping of Onion humor.

Protecting the brand

The Onion is still cranking out headlines like
The Onion is still cranking out headlines like "Israelis, Palestinians Agree to Share Headline."

But Mills isn't looking to transform the Onion into a ubiquitous brand. He's protective of its subversive cachet -- one reason Jay Leno won't be doing a recurring segment called "News From the Onion." Last fall, The Tonight Show's producers called to offer the Onion a regular slot, but "we just didn't feel like it was the right place for us," Mills explains. That's not the first such offer he's waved off.

"Most of my job is to say no to potential deals," says David Miner, an agent who represents the Onion. "It's OK if I never make a nickel on them, so long as I'm not the guy who killed the brand."

The looming fear, of course, is that the brand could languish if the commentary doesn't stay relevant and funny. "It's definitely getting harder because we try not to repeat ourselves," says editor Carol Kolb. As demonstrated by the failure of Spy Magazine and National Lampoon, humor publications have historically had trouble staying hot for long periods.

But 15 years in, the Onion is still cranking out headlines like "Israelis, Palestinians Agree to Share Headline," and against all odds, the operation just keeps growing. To paraphrase Steve Martin, comedy isn't pretty, but it's not a bad way to make a buck.

For more technology news visit Business 2.0.

Are we allowed to post FULL TEXT from CNN articles?
91 posted on 09/19/2003 2:23:02 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: SerpentDove
"Owner of Complete Set of 'Mama's Family' Videos vows Never to Go On Ebay Drunk Again."

One of the funniest things I have ever read. LOL

92 posted on 09/19/2003 2:23:02 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Lazamataz
Sounds like Sean Mills got a bad case of Blloming Onions!


Or Root rot.
93 posted on 09/19/2003 2:23:21 PM PDT by Area51 (RINO hunter!)
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To: alisasny; Jim Robinson
We have so many creative artists on FR that we never needed the Onion stuff in the first place.

All that having the Onion stuff over here did, was make me lazy anyways.

94 posted on 09/19/2003 2:23:26 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Fred Mertz
How come this isn't under Humor?

How come this isn't under Humidor?

95 posted on 09/19/2003 2:24:13 PM PDT by gridlock (All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11/01)
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To: Petronski
Oh well, no biggiee. Scrappleface is funnier anyways.

Gum

96 posted on 09/19/2003 2:24:50 PM PDT by ChewedGum (http://king-of-fools.blogspot.com)
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To: Lazamataz
I will gladly help promote BSNN with you.
97 posted on 09/19/2003 2:25:13 PM PDT by alisasny
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To: Jim Robinson
Please so not post anything from The Onion............

They never were that funny anyway. To heck with them!
98 posted on 09/19/2003 2:26:05 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Jim Robinson
Someone posted something from that idiot site? Why? It couldn`t have been anything funny, witty, or newsworthy.
99 posted on 09/19/2003 2:27:18 PM PDT by scabbage (if Huey Lewis and Stevie Ray Vaughn made a record, could you tell who was singing?)
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To: alisasny
I will gladly help promote BSNN with you.

And there ya go. My first headline:

RANDOM PERSON OFFERS TO HELP SOMEBODY WITH SOMETHING

100 posted on 09/19/2003 2:27:33 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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