Wesley Clark’s Ties To Muslim Terrorists

Toogood Reports ^ | 9/18/2003 | Cliff Kincaid

[bvw]

Are their any short piers near you? If so, we might all benefit by your taking a long walk.

That remark to John Galt was rude of you, dear.

[RaceBannon]

major bump

[JohnGalt]

How we trained Al-Qa'eda?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981426/posts

"Indeed, for all the Clinton officials’ concern about Islamic extremists in the Balkans, they continued to allow the growth and movement of mujahedin forces in Europe through the 1990s. In the late 1990s, in the run-up to Clinton’s and Blair’s Kosovo war of 1999, the USA backed the Kosovo Liberation Army against Serbia. According to a report in the Jerusalem Post in 1998, KLA members, like the Bosnian Muslims before them, had been ‘provided with financial and military support from Islamic countries’, and had been ‘bolstered by hundreds of Iranian fighters or mujahedin ...[some of whom] were trained in Osama bin Laden’s terrorist camps in Afghanistan’. It seems that, for all its handwringing, the USA just couldn’t break the pact with the devil. "

[itsahoot]

Would you have intervened in Stalin's Soviet Union and Mao's Red China?

Neither of which would have happened if not for the Communist infiltration of the Roosevelt administration.

We got Eisenhower, Japan got MacArthur.

[JohnGalt]

Not my war, son.

[JohnGalt]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/633124/posts

Raid on agency in Bosnia points to al-Qaeda link
Financial Times (UK) ^ | February 22, 2002 | Judy Dempsey

A Bosnia-based Saudi aid agency raided last October by Nato troops contained computer files with photographs of terrorist targets, maps of Washington's government buildings and materials for forging US State Department identification badges.

Western diplomats said the findings, finally confirmed on Thursday after weeks of speculation among diplomats and Bosnian officials, suggested that Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda cells were still in Bosnia-Herzegovina.

More than 3,000 Islamic fighters signed up with the Bosnian Muslim army to fight Croat and Serb forces during the early 1990s. After the 1995 Dayton peace accords, most of the fighters were ordered to leave but diplomats estimate that more than 300 remained, most of them taking up Bosnian citizenship.

[Burkeman1]

We can show Clark and the rest of the Dems to be complete hypocrites if we use "their war" in comparison to "our war".

Yes- we can. And the Dems are disgusting hypocrites who don't believe a word they say. But this war in Iraq is just as wrong (though not as cynical).

If Gore and any other Democrat were in the White House on 9/11 we would be reading about our troops getting attacked in Tehran and Damascas by now (or maybe not- as a Democrat president, post 9/11, would have been able to get press censorship like in WWII.)

[Burkeman1]

In the eyes of Washington and the bureacratic machine whose jobs depend on a huge federal government and a definition of our foreign "interests" that is open ended, undefined, and nebulous- then yes- it was a "successful war effort".

[Seselj]

The Serbs' blood lust, land grab caused over 200,000 deaths in the region. They needed to be stopped, as it averted countless thousands more deaths...

Was it the Serbs who were trying to take land? No! It was the KLA who was trying to take Kosovo away from Serbia. Does preventing a foreign invasion force from taking your land amount to land grab?

My view is consistent- where people are being slaughtered, as in Bosnia and Kosovo, where we have the power to stop it, we should.

And ~2000 dead rebels qualifies as a slaughter? Maybe Nato should bomb Russia for fighting the Chechen rebels? Or how about bombing USA for fighting the Taliban? It's the same thing.

By the way, the Albanians have troops on the ground in Iraq, alongside the Americans. Where are the Serbs? Exactly

That shows how much you know. Serbia has already offered troops for Iraq.

Don't let your blind hatred/racism towards all Muslims change history.

Muslims are not a race. Disagreeing with muslim extremists does not equal racism.

Face it, your hero Clark is an opportunist who just does whatever is popular. He would make about as good a president as Clinton.

[Burkeman1]

Thanks for that post. Albania under even Enver Hoxha had been encouraging illegal immigration into Kosovo for years. It was largely ignored by the Yugo Communist government for years as well. But these Albanian "immigrants" began a low level campaign of terror against the Serbs in Kosovo back in the early 80's. Serb "chauvanism" was suppressed by Tito and nothing was done about it. When Milosevic made his famous "You will be beaten no more" speech in Pristina to the Serbs in 89' it was an acknowledgement of an ethnic crisis that had been hidden by the communist government for two decades.

[Destro]

Already posted @ http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/984613/posts

[Tailgunner Joe]

bttt

[Jacob Kell]

"Anyone who knows the region knows that they were all converted to Islam forcefully by the Turks, are not religious, and support the West wholeheartedly."

Oh really? They why don't they reconvert back to Christianity? They no doubt have full freedom of religion now, so what's stopping them? Why don't they throw off the pagan Arabian moon god Allah which was basically foisted on them by the imperialist Turkish gooks?

[Burkeman1]

Some Albanians remained Catholic (Mother Teresa was an Albanian Catholic) and they suffered at the hands of their fellow Muslem Albanians both before, during, and after Communist rule by the vampire Hoxha. They may not be the most observant Muslems but their nominal identity as such gives them a reason to fight (if at least to mask their criminality in a cloak of "ideology".)

[Marysecretary]

No short piers, sweetie. Rudeness doesn't seem to bother most people here. I've been the recipient of many rude and uncalled for remarks. I don't mean to say things to hurt people.

[Seselj]

Anyone who knows the region knows that they were all converted to Islam forcefully by the Turks, are not religious, and support the West wholeheartedly.

And another thing, if they are not muslim extremists, then why did they destroy at least 110 Christian monasteries/churches (some of which were as old as 800 years) since 1999? I don't think they are "moderate muslims". They just claim that because being a hardcore muslim is not popular after 9/11, but their actions in Kosovo seem to suggest otherwise.

[Seselj]

Actually Albania has only about 70% muslims, the rest are mostly Orthodox or Catholic. But the Albanians in Kosovo are all muslim.

Here are some really interesting articles about Kosovo from various newspapers from the 1980's. They show what was going on in the 1980's.

[u-89]

Re: the cold war

I agree with you that FDR's action helped bring it on. The idea of unconditional surrender ensured that we would have to not just militarily defeat our enemies but totally defeat them including invade, subjugating, occupying, rebuilding and therfore defending those territories. Also as you say seeing Stalin as a man who could be dealt with and even a friend was insane. However when I look back and think through what was an actual, real threat to our security and what was not, and I look at the cumlitive costs I have to disagree with you that we had to act as we did.

> But during the 40 years of Cold War a breed of "conservative" developed that loves FDR, glorifies war and associates love of a standing huge military and military "victories" with being a "conservative". They also don't mind a huge central government

That was one of my points in opposing the cold war and though only a philosophical one it is the most important out of all of them as it effectively finished off the opponents to the liberal/socialist/globalist agenda. The real opposition was reduced to a small handful of libertarians and even smaller amount of conservatives. The globalist mindset is now religious dogma to the right, an article of the faith. As long as that is the case there is no hope of restoring constitutional government or reducing our security risks.

[NYC Republican]

The KLA is also a big player in the heroin trade.

The KLA is a thug group that should, and over time, will be disbanded... They served a purpose before becoming a rogue entity, now they're creating more destruction for their own people...

However, the fact that they are drug traffickers isn't really relevant here is it? The U.S. didn't go into Kosovo to help prop up the KLA, rather, they wanted to stop Milosevic's war machine. Neither I nor anyone else here would say a good thing about the KLA...

[NYC Republican]

Your post conmtains so much spin and misrepresentation, I won't even touch most of it. I'll tackle these...

That shows how much you know. Serbia has already offered troops for Iraq.

Look at the source. Destro finds a looney article from some Space.com site... The Serbs do not support the Iraq effort one bit.

Don't let your blind hatred/racism towards all Muslims change history. Muslims are not a race. Disagreeing with muslim extremists does not equal racism.

Do yourself a favor, and look at a dictionary. Religion is classified as a race

Face it, your hero Clark is an opportunist who just does whatever is popular. He would make about as good a president as Clinton.

I hate this scumbag more than anyone else. I despise nearly everything Klinton/Gore have ever said or done... This is the one venture I can point to that I thought was worthwhile. He may have done it to save his own a$$, but regardless, it doesn't make it any less worthwhile.