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Patrick J. Buchanan Examines "The Slow Awakening of George W."
Washington Times ^ | 09-17-03 | Buchanan, Patrick J.

Posted on 09/17/2003 7:06:29 AM PDT by Theodore R.

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To: ninenot
Maintaining an army and navy (and taking into account technological growth, an air force) is required under the Constitution.

Guaranteeing jobs for people is not required under the Constitution.
361 posted on 09/17/2003 12:33:35 PM PDT by hchutch (The National League needs to adopt the designated hitter rule.)
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To: hchutch
No but making America an atractive place for investment had better be high on the goal list. Without capital investment domestically we can't field a high tech military.
362 posted on 09/17/2003 12:36:49 PM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: Lazamataz
Zdrastvuitchya, druug! Vui zdyes. Harasho!

Funny... you call me the non-American.

When are you moving to Russia like you said you were going to do? You seem to really like it here in America a lot more, Alec.

363 posted on 09/17/2003 12:40:24 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg
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To: Tokhtamish

The logical end result of a massive loss of jobs is a European style welfare state, along with social unrest to go along with it. So far,l mainly though low intrest rats thnaks to the Asian centeral banks buying hundreds of billions of dollars of US Bonds, real estate and related activities such as re-fis has been a big cushion, but that cushion wont have air forever. You made a excellent point a couple of weeks back about having a Victorian era style of economics minus the Victorian era social values to go along with it.
364 posted on 09/17/2003 12:55:12 PM PDT by JNB (I am a Catholic FIRST)
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To: Texas_Dawg
He also calls you a fake Wall Street Worker, and a fake college graduate. Well I do too.

Is it true that the Great Wall of China is starting to fall into disrepair? How did it look when you were last there?

365 posted on 09/17/2003 12:55:48 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: RockyMtnMan; Poohbah; Texas_Dawg; rdb3; mhking
Read Post 182 on this thread, and you'll see what we gotta fix to make America attractive for investment.

Whatever you think of Microsoft, Bill Gates invested in America - and he got treated like crap for it. Anti-trust lawsuits and the tax code are just part of the BS he has had to endure.

This country treats successful businessmen like crap, and then it is surprised when they say "the hell with it" and head elsewhere. Tariffs and protectionism are the easy way out of the current mess, and taking the easy way out NEVER solves problems over the long haul.
366 posted on 09/17/2003 1:05:38 PM PDT by hchutch (The National League needs to adopt the designated hitter rule.)
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To: dogbyte12; Lazamataz
He also calls you a fake Wall Street Worker, and a fake college graduate. Well I do too.

I think this 150% return in less than 2 weeks speaks for itself. If you'd put $10,000 in my suggestion the day I posted that (9/6/03), you'd have about $25,000 now. (Luckily, I put much more than that in.) What proof do you do have that you do whatever it is you refuse to say you do?

367 posted on 09/17/2003 1:07:18 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg
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To: hchutch
This country treats successful businessmen like crap, and then it is surprised when they say "the hell with it" and head elsewhere.

For the most part it does a lot better in its treatment of them than other countries. FR is not very indicative of the majority of this country... just an extreme fringe, anti-capitalist, bunch on this thread.

368 posted on 09/17/2003 1:08:45 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg
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To: hchutch
Guaranteeing jobs for people is not required under the Constitution.

Neither is abusive misuse of Government powers to oppressively undermine the economic efforts and prosperity of America's Middle Class while plundering the public Treasury. Yet that doesn't seem to concern the ambitiously tryrannical public servants in Washington D.C. who are doing just that.

America has a rich political heritage which includes such quaint customs as tar and feathering the political scalawags who offend their sense of common decency. It kind of gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling just thinking about it, doesn't it?

369 posted on 09/17/2003 1:11:11 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Hi Texaggie79 !

How is your work for the Chinese military going these days ?
370 posted on 09/17/2003 1:11:25 PM PDT by Tokhtamish (Free trade ! Cheap Labor ! Cheap Life ! Cheap Flesh !)
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To: RockyMtnMan
On a thread a couple days ago, someone coined a new term to describe the effects of outsourcing/offshoring: 'Trickle-Out'.

The corporations that are now outsourcing/offshoring were already turning a nice profit, they just want larger profits. And, with these larger profits, they are not re-investing in American jobs or factories, only foreign.
And, added to that are the unfair trade agreements that are causing closures of many American mid-sized and small manufacturers.
But it is all okay because those who still have jobs can now purchase even more stuff (half of it they don't really need and it is not well made) for a few dollars less.
371 posted on 09/17/2003 1:12:34 PM PDT by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: Tokhtamish
Hi Texaggie79 !

If you knew anything about college sports, you'd realize how dumb that is.

372 posted on 09/17/2003 1:13:11 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg
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To: hchutch
Right on Hatch, the executives, are sick and tired of the Unions telling them how to run their companies. If the Unions don't think anymore of their job, then the companies are going to replace them. R.J Renolds announced today they are replacing, 16,000, starting now, and moving the jobs overseas.
373 posted on 09/17/2003 1:14:53 PM PDT by BooBoo1000
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To: Texas_Dawg
FR is not very indicative of the majority of this country

Yeah, I can agree with you there. A Ricky Lake audience is more indicative of the majority of this country.

If a majority of the country is intelligent and thoughtful wouldn't there actually be, oh, I dunno, news on the 6 o'clock evening news instead of stories about liposuction, how to make sure you have cleaned the bacteria off your cutting board and JLo and Ben?

374 posted on 09/17/2003 1:15:24 PM PDT by riri
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To: hchutch
Right on Hatch, the executives, are sick and tired of the Unions telling them how to run their companies. If the Unions don't think anymore of their job, then the companies are going to replace them. R.J Renolds announced today they are replacing, 16,000, starting now, and moving the jobs overseas.
375 posted on 09/17/2003 1:16:02 PM PDT by BooBoo1000
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To: JNB
Fascinating how the free traders are so utterly oblivious to the societal consequences of their policies. All they talk is either pure callousness or libertarian theory. Never real world consequences.
376 posted on 09/17/2003 1:16:02 PM PDT by Tokhtamish (Free trade ! Cheap Labor ! Cheap Life ! Cheap Flesh !)
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To: riri
If a majority of the country is intelligent and thoughtful wouldn't there actually be, oh, I dunno, news on the 6 o'clock evening news instead of stories about liposuction, how to make sure you have cleaned the bacteria off your cutting board and JLo and Ben?

Maybe so. I like this country though. Especially b/c that Ricki Lake crowd and the FR crowd are free to do whatever they want within the law... even though both groups are very poorly educated on average.

377 posted on 09/17/2003 1:17:23 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg
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To: Tokhtamish; All
Fascinating how the free traders are so utterly oblivious to the societal consequences of their policies. All they talk is either pure callousness or libertarian theory. Never real world consequences.

Real simple question you refuse to answer, Tok: Have you ever voted for a Democrat for President?

378 posted on 09/17/2003 1:18:25 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg
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To: Texas_Dawg
think this 150% return in less than 2 weeks speaks for itself. If you'd put $10,000 in my suggestion the day I posted that (9/6/03), you'd have about $25,000 now. (Luckily, I put much more than that in.) What proof do you do have that you do whatever it is you refuse to say you do?

So, you are a Commie day trader, living in the Bejing suburbs. Yada yada yada. You sound like a gambler. 50% ROI in two weeks sounds like the company was either way undervalued 2 weeks ago, or way overvalued now. No fundamentals would change that quickly. You are a glorified casino blackjack player. Day trading is a way to make a living. Just remember to monitor your stocks while you are posting all throughout the working hours.

379 posted on 09/17/2003 1:21:13 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
It really does boil down to capital investment in America. Without it there will be no jobs except those who make money by investing overseas. In order to invest overseas however we need some way of creating income here. If everyone could simply live off the fruits of foreign labor that would be great, the problem is you must have money to make money.
380 posted on 09/17/2003 1:21:26 PM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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