Posted on 09/15/2003 3:43:02 PM PDT by Brian S
Yep, this is the most plausible explanation if he destroyed the WMD but didn't prove it. In which case, again, all I can say is: he sure fooled us. Good one, Saddam!
Not only odd, it's down right astonishing. Manufacturing materials and equipment, workers, delivery systems, buildings, contaminated areas, the chems and bios themselves -- all vanished. A clean sweep. Maybe they had David Cooperfield on the payroll.
There is no delusion like self-delusion.
Richard W.
Bummer for him.
What's your point?
Saddam didn't fool anyone but someone surely did. Now who could that be?
Richard W.
Yes he did. He made the leadership of USA and Great Britain, among others, think that he had WMDs, when in fact (as you've demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt with mathematical certainty in this thread) he had destroyed all of them without documenting this destruction. That's who he fooled.
I, for one, always assumed that the 45 min. figure referred to battlefield weapons.
That's ridiculous. That would imply that he wanted to be attacked and lose power. Forget all the posturing and mind games that may have been taking place, the US and the Britts claimed that he had them and the Britts were so eager to make the point they even produced false documents. Okay, we went to war based on, what would have to be rock solid evidence because we are talking about going to war, and so the question just hangs out there -- where are the WMD? Keep in mind that we were so sure that we couldn't even let the UN inspectors finish their job. Couldn't be that we already knew that the UN wouldn't find anything now would it?
Richard W.
Or that he thought this would deter attack. Or that he was just delusional.
the Britts were so eager to make the point they even produced false documents
Source? Andrew Gilligan?
Okay, we went to war based on, what would have to be rock solid evidence because we are talking about going to war,
For the record, I don't agree that one has to go to war only based on evidence which is "rock solid".
so the question just hangs out there -- where are the WMD?
That's true. We may find out the answer to this question eventually. I can wait. The internet makes people impatient and jumpy, but really, I can wait.
Couldn't be that we already knew that the UN wouldn't find anything now would it?
Actually, I think it's precisely because we knew that the UN wouldn't find anything that we had to give up the whole charade.
You see the hopeless position of your case. You argue that even though WMD was the excuse for war, Saddam was delusional enough to think that they would prevent an attack. GW was going to have his war and invade Iraq one way or the other. It was a done deal and the excuses were made up to fit -- and there sure hasn't been any shortage of excuses from the "liberation" excuse to the "working with AQ" excuse and everything in between.
Richard W.
What "case"? I'm agreeing w/you: Saddam got rid of WMD & tricked us into thinking he didn't, so we ousted him. Oopsy daisy. Good one Saddam! You sure played us for fools.
How is that making a "case" for anything?
You argue that even though WMD was the excuse for war, Saddam was delusional enough to think that they would prevent an attack.
I'm saying that's a possibility.
GW was going to have his war and invade Iraq one way or the other.
I agree.
Your point?
This particular rope-a-dope game Saddam is playing is very high risk, though. He has already lost two of his most vicious children, and he needs the American people to be stupid enough to vote for an anti-war Democrat for President for the strategy to succeed (or for the Democrats to pull off voter fraud on a scale never before seen).
It is a high-risk strategy, but not necessarily doomed to failure.
And, of course, you know with absolute certainty that this is not happening, right?
The United States has found evidence of an active programme to make weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, including "truly amazing" testimony from Iraqis ordered to dupe United Nations inspectors before the war...[more] telegraph.co.uk - 8/1/2003
You were saying?
Where are the WMD?
Richard W.
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