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Arnold Schwarzenegger is a Social Conservative
Intellectual Conservative ^ | September 12, 2003 | Bruce Walker

Posted on 09/12/2003 12:19:04 PM PDT by EllaMinnow

Social conservatism means a serious fidelity to those beliefs and traditions which keep us civilized and decent.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is a social conservative, despite much rhetoric to the contrary. Social conservatism means a serious fidelity to those beliefs and traditions which keep us civilized and decent without resort to laws, regulations and bureaucrats.

Social conservatism is a respect for tradition and for values which have withstood the test of time. Chinese family members who respect and support one another, even at the cost of personal wishes, are social conservatives whatever their metaphysical beliefs.

This definition of social conservatism as a matter of example rather than profession does not mean we agree on every detail of moral behavior. It means instead that we root ourselves in something permanent, dignified and civic. Even eccentricity can be socially conservative. British and American peoples are famous for producing men who, for want of a better term, are cranks. That is very much a part of the culture of these two nations.

At the heart of social conservatism is fidelity. Often men who are social conservatives are ideologically left of center. Jimmy Carter is a good example. By all appearances, Carter took his marital vows seriously and his religious faith seriously. He stopped serving hard liquor at White House dinners.

That did not prevent Carter from being a petty, spiteful and almost insufferable boor. And it certainly did not prevent Carter from being wrong on almost every issue. But it does mean that Jimmy Carter was a social conservative.

Joe Lieberman is also a social conservative, even if he supports terrible policies. Every indication is that Lieberman is a religiously serious Orthodox Jew. It is impossible to imagine Joe munching a bacon cheeseburger on Kol Nidre. Bill Bradley is another social conservative who loves his wife, gained his wealth and fame through guts and hard work, and sincerely believes in all the bad ideas he proposes.

The beauty of America, of course, is that social conservatism does not require being correct as much as being sincere. It does not require conformity to a particular catechism so much as it means conformity to some catechism. The bewildering variety of religions, sects, and societies in American life is a testament to Americans respecting in social life the same freedom to be wrong that we respect in our economic life. Indeed, social conservatism is another form of market choice which helps, through competition, to elevate cultures and traditions within America.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is made of the "right stuff.” There is no odor of phoniness about him. He loves his wife and family. He worked his way to the top with sweat and diligence. He resembles a number of other social conservative Republicans around President Bush who are not generally recognized as social conservatives.

Who? How about Colin Powell? He turned down the Presidency itself in 1996 out of respect for his wife and family. Does anyone question that what Powell believes, he believes sincerely? How about Tom Ridge, who was too liberal to be the running mate in 2000, but who putters around his home for recreation and grew up in the Marine Corps.

Tony Blair and Rudy Giuliani are social conservatives who we seldom see as social conservatives. Both these heroic figures do what they do publicly and because they believe it is right. Thank goodness both are on our side now--social conservatives dig their heels in very deeply!--but even when Giuliani supports abortion or Powell supports affirmative action, they can do so looking you straight in the eye with a polygraph examiner unable to detect a hint of spin in their answers.

This type of social conservative--guys doing what they think is right because they think it is right--is precisely the sort of man that President Bush has shown incredible skill in using to make America better. Our Texan President, our proudly Cowboy President, does not demand that anyone agree with him on every issue. In fact, such silly boys can be skimmed off the corporate boards of a hundred big companies.

He wants people who are true to themselves. He wants, and we should want, real social conservatives. Rabbis who read Torah as if it were holy writ. Priests who take their vows seriously. Men who honor their parents and are faithful to their wives. Men like Arnold Schwarzenegger or Ronald Reagan or John Wayne, who will fight for what they think is right.

When Governor Schwarzenegger takes office, President Bush will find honor more valuable than agreement and grit more important than obedience. It will be a winning team, perhaps a team that can transform America.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
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To: EternalVigilance
I'll touch it!
441 posted on 09/12/2003 4:48:33 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: shellylet
Man, talk about a computer hiccup...
442 posted on 09/12/2003 4:48:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Forget the hiccup! She's going to touch it! :)
443 posted on 09/12/2003 4:49:17 PM PDT by shellylet
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To: TightyRighty
You gotta watch him...never know which side the hump will be on at any given time.

Proof Igor was a RINO, of course...
445 posted on 09/12/2003 4:50:09 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: cyncooper
Oh, that's it! If they ran out of pizza, he ain't gettin' my vote, for sure!
Ran out of pizza??? What kind of a man runs out of pizza?
446 posted on 09/12/2003 4:50:36 PM PDT by shellylet
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To: EternalVigilance
In which case he had a big hump!
447 posted on 09/12/2003 4:52:16 PM PDT by shellylet
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To: shellylet
How did we stray so far from the subject? Let me see if I can get this party started....

I'm sick of illegal aliens taking over this state!

And I'm sick of the smell of onions!

Can I get an AMEN!

448 posted on 09/12/2003 4:53:14 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: shellylet
Is this true?!?!?

Ran out of Pizza and salad?!?!

Oh my goodness....

Someone better 'make him an offer he can't refuse'.
449 posted on 09/12/2003 4:53:38 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: TightyRighty
I'll have what she's having!
450 posted on 09/12/2003 4:54:12 PM PDT by shellylet
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To: shellylet
Well, Marty Feldman did have very big EYES..
451 posted on 09/12/2003 4:54:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: TightyRighty
But I love onions...
452 posted on 09/12/2003 4:55:15 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
And I love Marty Feldman. And you know what they say about a man with big eyes!
453 posted on 09/12/2003 4:56:31 PM PDT by shellylet
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
This article, and the (R)nold Groupies rationalizing for it on this thread,

Can you cite one post rationalizing the article?

I think pro-Schwarzenegger comments have been about him being a real Republican and conservative in some areas and not in others, but I don't think I've even seen ONE post supporting the article, per se, and claiming he's really "socially conservative" as freepers would use the term.

But I tend to skim when I read, so if you could point one out to me, I'd appreciate it.

454 posted on 09/12/2003 4:57:12 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: EternalVigilance
I lived in the Central Valley so I equate onions with really bad BO!

Nobody forget - Savage on O'Reilly

455 posted on 09/12/2003 4:57:23 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: DryFly
Being from TX, why do you care what happens in CA?

1. What happens in California affects the rest of the nation.

2. Judging from the current political makeup of EVERY statewide office in California, you guys could use a little help.

456 posted on 09/12/2003 4:58:02 PM PDT by strela (It is not true that Larry Flynt's biggest financial donor is Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills.)
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To: shellylet
Oh, dear. You missed the point of my post, didn't you.

Poor thing.
457 posted on 09/12/2003 4:58:31 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: shellylet
And you know what they say about a man with big eyes!

Wait, wait...I got it...They NEVER forget the pizza and the salad!!!

Right?

458 posted on 09/12/2003 4:58:46 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: strela
And within a couple of years Texas will be just as bad as California!
459 posted on 09/12/2003 4:59:44 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: EternalVigilance
You are the bomb! And if you do run out, you just order more!!!
OK all, it's been fun, but I'm going to watch O'Reilly now, it will remind me of being on these threads! Have a great evening!
460 posted on 09/12/2003 5:01:01 PM PDT by shellylet
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