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Free Speech? Anti-terrorism laws used to suppress website
Democracy Now ^ | 9-3-2003 | Amy Goodman

Posted on 09/07/2003 6:42:10 PM PDT by Aarchaeus

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Scary.
1 posted on 09/07/2003 6:42:11 PM PDT by Aarchaeus
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“When I went there, the Secret Service notified the New York police chief to pretty much, I guess, target me and arrest me,” Austin said. “I was just standing there, out of nowhere cops just rushed me and scooped up about 26 people. I was one of those 26 people.”

Moron.

2 posted on 09/07/2003 6:51:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Regime change in the Courts. - Impeach Activist Judges!)
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Austin describes his raisethefist.com site as an anarchist web page.

Huh. I always was under the impression that it was a 'Gay Rights' web site, and I never visited it... huh. Oops.

3 posted on 09/07/2003 6:51:41 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Chad Fairbanks - 1970 Recipient of the Prestigious Y-Chromosome Award)
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1984 here we come!
4 posted on 09/07/2003 6:54:33 PM PDT by TailspinJim
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That's raisefist dot com, not ray's fist dot com. ;^)
5 posted on 09/07/2003 6:54:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Regime change in the Courts. - Impeach Activist Judges!)
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According to the tech news site CNet, Austin is the first person charged under this law, which has been criticized by First Amendment scholars. The law came into effect in 1997, after Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) added it onto a defense-spending bill.

What's REALLY funny about this, is you just KNOW that Fineswine did this to target right-wing groups... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaa

6 posted on 09/07/2003 6:55:25 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Chad Fairbanks - 1970 Recipient of the Prestigious Y-Chromosome Award)
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I just now figured that out LOL
7 posted on 09/07/2003 6:55:49 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Chad Fairbanks - 1970 Recipient of the Prestigious Y-Chromosome Award)
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Post a scan from an old Army Demolitions Manual that the government sold you on a website and you can make the same trip if someone is pissed at you.
8 posted on 09/07/2003 7:01:16 PM PDT by and the horse you rode in on (I am not reptilian, I just have a low basal metabloism.)
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Buy all those military manuals on CD-ROM from frugalsquirrel.com. Commit them to memory and pass them on to a FRiend.
9 posted on 09/07/2003 7:05:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (Regime change in the Courts. - Impeach Activist Judges!)
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And when he gets out of prison next year, he will be banned from associating with anyone who wants to “change the government in any way.”

I guess that means he can't associate with anyone registered to vote, huh? Since voting means that you're trying to "change the government," and the ruling states "in any way."

Mark

10 posted on 09/07/2003 7:08:52 PM PDT by MarkL (Get something every day from the four basic food groups: canned, frozen, fast and takeout)
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Its a law. He chose to break it. He chose to post instuctions on building people killing devices.

He should be thankfull that he will only serve a year. THAT is very lenient in my book.

The leftists anarchist groups have not figured out that the world changed on 9-11. Tactics like this are not accepted with a wink anymore.

Too bad. At least this guy will have a social life in prison.
11 posted on 09/07/2003 7:09:08 PM PDT by Cyclops08
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"The law came into effect in 1997, after Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) added it onto a defense-spending
bill."


So the same leftist idiot that is screaming about the Patriot Act said this was okey-dokey on der Slickmeister's
watch!

12 posted on 09/07/2003 7:12:17 PM PDT by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment)
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MOre than likely he is exagerating or mistating the sentence. It's more than likely he is forbidden to associate with anyone who wants to change the SYSTEM of government in any way... but maybe I'm wrong.
13 posted on 09/07/2003 7:13:14 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Chad Fairbanks - 1970 Recipient of the Prestigious Y-Chromosome Award)
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“We went back to court,” said Austin. “And the judge said, you know, ‘what kind of a message would four months in jail send to other revolutionaries?’ And he pretty much made it clear that he wanted to set an example out of me and again stated that he wanted to give me at least a year in prison.”

He got off easy... Other American revolutionaries, like Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, and George Washington would have gotten the death penalty if they had been caught...

Mark

14 posted on 09/07/2003 7:13:51 PM PDT by MarkL (Get something every day from the four basic food groups: canned, frozen, fast and takeout)
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“We went back to court,” said Austin. “And the judge said, you know, ‘what kind of a message would four months in jail send to other revolutionaries?’ And he pretty much made it clear that he wanted to set an example out of me and again stated that he wanted to give me at least a year in prison.”

He got off easy... Other American revolutionaries, like Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, and George Washington would have gotten the death penalty if they had been caught...

Mark

15 posted on 09/07/2003 7:13:52 PM PDT by MarkL (Get something every day from the four basic food groups: canned, frozen, fast and takeout)
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Exactly...
16 posted on 09/07/2003 7:13:52 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Chad Fairbanks - 1970 Recipient of the Prestigious Y-Chromosome Award)
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The Patriot Act was written on the Clintoon watch.
17 posted on 09/07/2003 7:17:07 PM PDT by TigersEye (Regime change in the Courts. - Impeach Activist Judges!)
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Its a law. He chose to break it.

My guess is that as soon as Commisar Feinsteins law gets in front of an apellate court it won't be law any more.

18 posted on 09/07/2003 7:20:29 PM PDT by and the horse you rode in on (I am not reptilian, I just have a low basal metabloism.)
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1997! Finswine!

ROTFLMAO-- The Left hung by their own petard!!!!

This guy's website preaches "resistance" (violence) against the oppresive white pig establishment.

If he posted info on explosives making and combined it with a call to arms, then he violated the law.

19 posted on 09/07/2003 7:33:20 PM PDT by pierrem15
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Buy all those military manuals on CD-ROM from frugalsquirrel.com. Commit them to memory and pass them on to a FRiend.

Keep the original. Burn copies and pass them along to FRiends. US Government publications carry no copyright, and it's perfectly legal to reproduce them.

20 posted on 09/07/2003 7:33:54 PM PDT by Denver Ditdat
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