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Social Security worker caught in card scam gets 30 months (made fake cards for illegals)
Star-Ledger | Saturday, September 06, 2003 | JOHN P. MARTIN

Posted on 09/06/2003 2:35:41 AM PDT by Liz

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1 posted on 09/06/2003 2:35:41 AM PDT by Liz
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To: HiJinx; gubamyster
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2 posted on 09/06/2003 3:10:38 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Liz
Federal investigators have tracked down all of the fraudulent cards, Boxer said, and found no proof that any of the recipients used them to commit crimes.

Something is wrong with this statement.Having the card itself was a crime.

3 posted on 09/06/2003 3:14:55 AM PDT by CONSERVE
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Turner was charged in April 2002 after investigators from the U.S. Postal Inspection Service and Social Security Administration tracked a flow of illegal cards to Victor Pacheco, 45, of Elizabeth.

Pacheco admitted that he enlisted Turner to illegally process about 400 cards for him. He paid her between $50 and $300 for each card, then sold them to aliens who otherwise could not get the cards.

Turner and Pacheco became friends when he worked at a convenience store near her office in Elizabeth. Both pleaded guilty last fall to conspiring to transfer Social Security cards to illegal aliens. He faces sentencing in two weeks.

Well they got Victoooor Paaaacheeeecoo . . .  of course they will also immedeatly get on those 400 criminal aliens, right?  They have the SS numbers, should be a piece of cake, right?

Federal investigators have tracked down all of the fraudulent cards, Boxer said, and found no proof that any of the recipients used them to commit crimes.

Well, a logical and thinking person would conclude that the cards. having been obtained by fraud by criminal illegal aliens would probably be used to commit other crimes but obviously all 400 POSSESSORS of the cards are just `lil angles blowing halos out their butts, right?

4 posted on 09/06/2003 3:39:00 AM PDT by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: Liz
"She simply thought she was doing someone a favor,"

Give me a break...You don't get paid for favors...She had a little side business going...She got paid and now it's her turn to pay...

5 posted on 09/06/2003 3:41:20 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: CONSERVE
I hope they confiscated the fake cards. But I think the main objective was to determine if these illegal got jobs at airports and such that might endanger the public.

I think the Feds also checked whether the illegals created false identities -- a huge crime these days -- for purposes of fraud as well.

6 posted on 09/06/2003 3:52:17 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Iscool
And b/c she was doing it out of sight of her management, she had to know she was doing something wrong.
7 posted on 09/06/2003 3:55:02 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
30 months? She was selling us out. 30 months is a joke compared to what she should get.
8 posted on 09/06/2003 5:20:19 AM PDT by LibKill (Will club baby seals for the heck of it.)
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Gee, Linden and Newark, NJ. Sure, there's no problem with anyone with terrorist ties in NJ. No, everyone just move along. No need to track who got the cards. This one's solved. /s
9 posted on 09/06/2003 5:24:42 AM PDT by Unknown Freeper
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She got off too lightly. The owners of the fraudulent card should also be prosecuted and jailed.
10 posted on 09/06/2003 6:51:40 AM PDT by DianaN (Eternal Freedom)
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She got off too lightly. The owners of the fraudulent card should also be prosecuted and jailed.

What are you talking about? This is Animal Farm. Those illegals who commited a crime by bribing a US Fer'al Employeee into committing a crime, then using that fraudulent document to fraudulently game the system (even get on the recipient roles worth tens of thousands of dollars annually in fraud based entitlements) Heck, that SS card can even be used to vote illegally.

You need to understand the rules. Those who are honest and are American Citiens are the target of all government hostility. Those who work to undermine this nation's status as a World superpower are Heros of the Revolution and will be rewarded, not punished.

The Ends Justify The Means

11 posted on 09/06/2003 7:29:52 AM PDT by Dr Warmoose
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Federal and state of CT income tax fraud and evasion.

Where are the fed and state charges?

Where is that money?

Where are the fines and interest?

What unlawful benefits did all those many 100s of illegal get using faked ID real SS cards?

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12 posted on 09/06/2003 9:39:15 AM PDT by autoresponder (PETA TERRORISTS .wav file: BRUCE FRIEDRICH: http://tinyurl.com/hjhd)
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Whoops!

Not CT!

Noo Joisey!
13 posted on 09/06/2003 9:41:50 AM PDT by autoresponder (PETA TERRORISTS .wav file: BRUCE FRIEDRICH: http://tinyurl.com/hjhd)
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To: Iscool
Exactly, you don't get paid $60,000 (400 cards X a conservative est of $150 per card) to do favors. By the way, with that kind of windfall, how did her husband not know about this? Bet the family's lifestyle took a remarkable turn for the better and they were driving around in some real nice wheels. Dosen't he have some 'splainin' to do?




14 posted on 09/06/2003 9:58:45 AM PDT by Starboard
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Turner, a mother of three children, had no criminal record and had worked for the Social Security Administration since 1981.

Well --- she sure does now. I wonder what is the point of mentioning she HAD no criminal record ---- she's no innocent, she knew exactly what she was doing. A lot of criminals have no criminal record until they are caught.

15 posted on 09/06/2003 10:03:34 AM PDT by FITZ
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16 posted on 09/06/2003 10:03:44 AM PDT by gubamyster
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Wonder if any of the cards went to one of the 4 that just came out on the FBIs most wanted list?
17 posted on 09/06/2003 10:12:20 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: FITZ
Do you think the feds will even bother to check into tax evasion charges against this woman? (I doubt it.) She should lose her job and any health/retirement benefits that may have accrued to her.

And what about Pacheco? What the heck was his sentence?

Not to imply (or should that be infer?) that you have the answers, Fitz. All of this crap going on in America ticks me off beyond belief.

18 posted on 09/06/2003 10:17:36 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: gubamyster
Is 30 months a misprint? 30 years would be more like it.
19 posted on 09/06/2003 10:18:04 AM PDT by Paulie
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30 years would be more like it.

That's what I was thinking when I read it.

20 posted on 09/06/2003 10:19:33 AM PDT by gubamyster
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