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President George W. Bush Speaks Exclusively with CNBC's Ron Insana (China)
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Posted on 09/05/2003 6:42:27 PM PDT by maui_hawaii

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The best thing to do with these countries, however, is not to, is not to scream and shout and thump the table here at home. It's to send a clear message to them so that they know our position so they can digest what we've told them and that we can work together as friends to resolve any problems we have.

Maybe he is talking to those on FR.

I don't know about others here but much of the time I wasn't talking directly to China, but rather Washington...

I am hopeful that someone listens.

1 posted on 09/05/2003 6:42:27 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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In other words I have real reason to doubt the sincerity and honesty of many of our policy makers and intelligence community on China.
2 posted on 09/05/2003 6:47:04 PM PDT by maui_hawaii (When Clinton was asked about foreign affairs, he replied, "I don't know; I never had one.")
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The best thing to do with these countries, however, is not to, is not to scream and shout and thump the table here at home. It's to send a clear message to them so that they know our position so they can digest what we've told them and that we can work together as friends to resolve any problems we have.

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Quote of the day for a paragraph devoid of concrete content award.

3 posted on 09/05/2003 6:48:16 PM PDT by RLK
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Lets see...

Washington doesn't want anyone to say anything to China about anything. China is hands off for anyone and everyone and has been for a while. They do what they want to whomever they want and they are right about it.

Employment tanks.

Manufacturers complain.

We scream and yell.

Washington refuses to say ONE word for a long time.

Washington stalls and stalls. Washington drags its feet.

FINALLY we bitch and complain enough, and garner enough attention that they know that we will vote based on their inaction and inattention.

Washington seeks to pacify those who complain...until the election is over. Most likely because they fear the piper.

Then he says "we shouldn't thump the table..."

4 posted on 09/05/2003 6:56:21 PM PDT by maui_hawaii (When Clinton was asked about foreign affairs, he replied, "I don't know; I never had one.")
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Not to mention that "We" can't send a message to China. Only HE can send that message.

Problem is, the message wasn't sent. And no one wanted to send it. And they still don't want to send it. At least until the office of President is threatened...

If they DID send it, they said nothing to anyone.

They run their China policies from back rooms and inform us of nothing. We are stupid civilians and they are all knowing govt fat heads.

They treat us accordingly.

5 posted on 09/05/2003 7:04:40 PM PDT by maui_hawaii (When Clinton was asked about foreign affairs, he replied, "I don't know; I never had one.")
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In short, Bush is going to do nothing.
6 posted on 09/05/2003 7:12:59 PM PDT by per loin
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Friends dont send AKs RPGs and mines to terrorist nations to kill our troops with....
do they?
7 posted on 09/05/2003 7:15:19 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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What the hell's wrong with you? You're beginning to sound like me. Are you going through male menopause or something?
8 posted on 09/05/2003 7:17:29 PM PDT by RLK
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Actually, in real terms, probably not.

If jobs go up and there are 2 million new jobs in America in the next 12 months... I WANT THE TRADE DEFICIT WITH CHINA TO COME DOWN. A LOT. I want LONG TERM fundamental CHANGE. That definately means kicking Motorola's ass and having them invest somewhere else.

If there is not 2 million jobs created in the next 12 months he will probably be forced to do something otherwise the vote is going to express itself.

In reality the issue will be dropped as soon as its convienient to do so.

9 posted on 09/05/2003 7:20:58 PM PDT by maui_hawaii (When Clinton was asked about foreign affairs, he replied, "I don't know; I never had one.")
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Male menopause? How old do you have to be to have that happen?

Odds are I am not there yet...

Maybe 20 years off...

10 posted on 09/05/2003 7:22:33 PM PDT by maui_hawaii (When Clinton was asked about foreign affairs, he replied, "I don't know; I never had one.")
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I'm likin' Bush less.
The only thing saving him in 2004 is the opposition seems to be willing to nominate a fire breathing socialist.
What is he thinking - use the same strategy that worked so well against the Japanese?
Clueless, ball-less republicans, sigh...
11 posted on 09/05/2003 7:30:58 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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Even not including anything like that, China has to do things differently.

I am giving him a hard time, but I am definately glad that GW has taken this up.

This currency thing is a long term issue. I hope he gets that. Balance in Asia is a key long term goal. Its not only good for us but for China too.

China doesn't want a defunct economy. They sure as hell don't want one that is reliant on us for half of their growth. Eventually the factories will stop moving to China.

FDI isn't going to save them in the long term. It works for now though so thats what they do. They have the economic bull by the tail, but definately not by the horns.

China needs an economy that works from the inside out. Not from the outside in.

That is not some anti-China talk either.

The problem is China is going to have to face its own fears to accomplish what needs to be accomplished.

Essentially we have been pandering to China's fears, but not helping overcome them.

12 posted on 09/05/2003 7:33:17 PM PDT by maui_hawaii (When Clinton was asked about foreign affairs, he replied, "I don't know; I never had one.")
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To: Last Dakotan
I watched the debates last night and the competition SUCKED.

There are socialists and there are stupid ass socialists. They are falling into the latter category.

Odds are depending on many things, GW will probably win due to a lack of a realistic non-nut job on the other side of the ticket, but there might be a shake up in the House and Senate.

Then again, the issue of judges is pissing a lot of people off.

Karl Rove probably has a case of Excedrin in his office.

13 posted on 09/05/2003 7:39:01 PM PDT by maui_hawaii (When Clinton was asked about foreign affairs, he replied, "I don't know; I never had one.")
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I thought this interview was one of the best the president has ever given. He was so relaxed & presidential. You all would have been more impressed with our guy than usual if that's possible. It reruns at midnight EST on CNBC. The best part was the very end when asked about 9/11. He answered "The lessons of September the llth is that an enemy does exist and this great country will never cower in the face of terrorists and that we have an obligation in this administration to do everything in our power to make sure that this doesn't happen again."
14 posted on 09/05/2003 7:45:26 PM PDT by nightowl
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China needs an economy that works from the inside out. Not from the outside in.

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They have one and are building an even better one. Each time we move and industry there it is assimilated into their system and continues to function independently within that system. We have moved China foreward 60 years in the last 25. The only reason they want trade is to bring in more to assimilated into their system. In five to 10 years they will be completely economically independent. They are producing somewhere in the order of over 60,000 engineers and scientists per year to support their own independent technology and economy.

15 posted on 09/05/2003 7:46:54 PM PDT by RLK
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To: nightowl
I saw it...I should say parts at least.

I did like it.

16 posted on 09/05/2003 7:50:52 PM PDT by maui_hawaii (When Clinton was asked about foreign affairs, he replied, "I don't know; I never had one.")
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To: RLK
I wouldn't get so optimistic about China.
17 posted on 09/05/2003 7:51:42 PM PDT by maui_hawaii (When Clinton was asked about foreign affairs, he replied, "I don't know; I never had one.")
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To: nightowl
I posted this part because this is what I do (follow China stuff)....

I think it is VERY good that he said SOMETHING about China. Especially now. That is a very good step.

18 posted on 09/05/2003 7:53:57 PM PDT by maui_hawaii (When Clinton was asked about foreign affairs, he replied, "I don't know; I never had one.")
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I want to know what's wrong with talking straight about this (or other) stuff from the start.
19 posted on 09/05/2003 7:57:15 PM PDT by maui_hawaii (When Clinton was asked about foreign affairs, he replied, "I don't know; I never had one.")
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Yeah, I think it's just the foreign policy equivalent of political correctness. Doesnt work. F*** that.
20 posted on 09/05/2003 8:04:55 PM PDT by fiftymegaton
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