NRA lying to 80 million gun owners about Silveira Gun Rights Case

Keep and Bear Arms ^ | 8.28.2003 | Angel Shamaya

[CHICAGOFARMER]

While NRA's amicus brief supporting the Silveira case, NRA has not given one dime toward the Silveira legal battle, of which KeepAndBearArms.com is the sole fundraiser. NRA's phone solicitors have raised money under the guise that they've been helping the case. Presently Keep and Bear Arms funding raising efforts has provided 100% of the cash needed to move this case to the United States Supreme Court.

It is time for some or all of the 80 million firearms owners to stand shoulder to shoulder with the leaders on this case. It is time for NRA members who are reading this freepr to step forward in get involved.

[SteveH]

CA [+ NRA hypocrisy] *bang

[archy]

Joe, it looks like this is a good one for your 2Amd list attention.

-archy-/-

[Ben Dover]

I'm a NRA life member. I donate when I can, if I can. One of my problems with the NRA is that I get solicitations from them almost every week. With over 4M members, that works out to over a $1,000,000 a week in printing and postage. What the percentage of members that respond to each of these mailings, I do not know. I think that if the NRA would not saturate the postal system with these mailings, less people would feel that these mailings are just junk mail and would feel compelled to take action to the request for funding.

[CHICAGOFARMER]

NRA is that I get solicitations from them almost every week. With over 4M members, that works out to over a $1,000,000 a week in printing

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I wish I knew how much money NRA gets in donations, and how much they spend. I have heard they manage 120 million, but I just do not know. They are run by an advertizing company that uses the NRA cause for their own pocketbook, is what I hear.

This case need people who can spread the word. Can you spread the word??

[agitator]

For all of the money they raise, can anyone show me a single non-constitutional federal gun law that has ever left the books or that hasn't been traded off for an even worse law (i.e., McClure-Volkmer Firearms Owners Trojan Act) ?

And for all of the claims about how concealed carry laws have been passed, haven't they been the result of grass-roots efforts rather than the NRA and aren't they just as non-constitutional?

If I was still an NRA member, I would be asking where the bang for my buck was.

[AnnaZ]

The NRA pretty much stinks. I have little use for a gun rights group that isn't working hard enough to put themselves out of business.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

I'm a Life Member and donate when I can, too. NRA send me a magazine and thats it.

[Robert Drobot]

Thanks to your thread I'm now aware of http://KeepAndBearArms.com

I've bookmarked it, and will support my right to protect my family through them.

[BenR2]

Ping.

How about you come over to work with KABA?

[Mind-numbed Robot]

This is a nice little bash-the-NRA thread, much like the many bash-George Bush threads I see with a little clique joining hands and all singing the same hymn.

What is the NRA's objection to this case? Despite the one sided presentation here it seems that the NRA simply thinks this is a weak case on which to base such an important outcome. It might be better to find a stronger case so that a loss does not become a precedent.

[rw4site]

Boy! Did you ever pick a fitting screen name!

[OldPossum]

I told them twice that if they kept on sending me all that material week after week my wife and I would quit. They kept on doing it and we quit.

P.S. In addition to Keep and Bear Arms, the Gun Owners of America is a good organization. That's where we moved our allegiance.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

Thanks. Now do you care to answer my question or is dodging the issue and just making a personal attack your style?

[Dan from Michigan]

Second Amendment Foundation

I'm a member of the NRA. I'm also a member of SAF, which is a great org.

[rw4site]

Re: "It might be better to find a stronger case so that a loss does not become a precedent."

First of all, It is not a clique. It may just be people who have been waiting for years and years for the NRA to support the Constitution and fight for 2nd amendment issues in the judicial and legislative systems.

Every law that usurped the 2nd amendment should have been strongly fought. Their track record is dismal. How many gun laws have the NRA had removed and when was the last time they took the initiative to support any gun owner and fight for their case to the end? They haven't.

You and other ardent supporters of the NRA continue your quest. I don't mind. I will continue to voice my contrary opinion.

NRA member. Also a member of the GOA, JPFO, and RKBA.

[Johnny Crab]

"a gun rights group that isn't working hard enough to put themselves out of business"

BINGO! or BANG! Should "the people" finally stand up for "the people" and 2A gets read as its writers meant it to be....the NRA would become "not economically viable".

[risk]

ping

[Imal]

I'm an NRA life member, and I certainly don't agree with everything the NRA does. I'm also an American, and don't agree with everything America does either, but I'm not leaving over it.

The allegations may merit concern and investigation, but it think it's silly for defenders of our right to self-defense in this country to get all bent out of shape over whether they're a member of the Peoples' Judean Front or the Peoples' Front of Judea.

We all want the same thing, and we may choose to go about it differently as is also our God-given right. But wasting our time dragging each other down is our enemies' job, not ours. Let's not make it any easier on them, because they aren't going to go easy on us.

Let's try keeping some perspective, for crying out loud.

[risk]

I agree with you.