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Land Rights Advocates Allege Bush Administration Betrayal
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| 08-30-03-
| By Kelley Beaucar Vlahos
Posted on 08/30/2003 6:58:26 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: LarryM
If so, elect a democract as president and see him take all the other lands away. Sheesh.
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posted on
08/30/2003 7:45:35 AM PDT
by
gulfcoast6
(Tis a good day to be alive, do something positive today)
To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
If Bush was interested he could undo them with the stroke of a pen. I am not familiar with the regulations of the Antiquities Act, are you?
How easy is it to un-designate a National Monument? My guess is that it would take an Act of Congress
I am not defending President Bush but only attempting to explain his actions as I see them.
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posted on
08/30/2003 7:50:27 AM PDT
by
Pontiac
To: Dane
It is so funny watching you knee jerkers in action.It is so funny watching you brown nosers in action too.
See how easy that game is to play?
To: machiventa
"
Bush will lose the next election. Don't attack the messenger. He just cant deliver as promised. To paraphrase with a twist. If the people are given a choice between a Democrat and a Republican acting like a Democrat, the people will always pick the real thing. How sad and I just know he has the potential to be great."
Now that you've explained that, I will certainly vote for whom ever is the democratic socialist presidential candidate.
I mean, why fool around with wanna be's.
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posted on
08/30/2003 7:52:03 AM PDT
by
G.Mason
(Lessons of life need not be fatal)
To: Pontiac
He designated the monuments through executive order.
They could be undesignated the same way.
The group is trying to use the legal process to undo the presidential orders of Clinton.
The administration is fighting them and defending the Clinton land grabs.
To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Clinton designated with order.
Bush could undesignate.
To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
He designated the monuments through executive order. They could be undesignated the same way. If there is law that specifies the way in which land designated as a National Monument is returned to its former status as Federal Range Land (or what ever), the President would be required to follow that procedure.
Question: Has a National Monument ever been un-designated? If it has I have never heard of it.
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posted on
08/30/2003 8:04:04 AM PDT
by
Pontiac
To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
http://clinton5.nara.gov/library/hot_releases/Proclamation: Establishment of the Virgin Islands Coral Reef National Monument
Proclamation: Establishment of the Upper Missouri River Breaks National Monument
Proclamation: Establishment of the Pompeys Pillar National Monument
Proclamation: Establishment of the Sonoran Desert National Monument
Proclamation: Establishment of the Minidoka Internment National Monument
Proclamation: Establishment of the Kasha-Katuwe Tent Rocks National Monument
Proclamation: Establishment of the Carrizo Plain National Monument
Proclamation: Boundary Enlargement and Modifications of the Buck Island Reef National Monument
To: freekitty
President Bush, I would like to know the answer to this one. It is really pretty simple, land owned by the government, is collateral on the National Debt. The debt has increased greatly under Bush, therfore the amount of collateral will have to be increased.
None of the land confiscated under the Clinton Administratition is going to be returned to states, or private ownership, in fact, more land will have to be confiscated to protect the investment of the lendor, (the Federal Reserve Bank).
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posted on
08/30/2003 8:31:45 AM PDT
by
c-b 1
To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Hey don't blame me. I didn't vote for either Clinton or the person who helped Clinton into office in the first place, Perot.But you would rather go on your rants.....
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posted on
08/30/2003 8:41:26 AM PDT
by
AAABEST
To: philman_36
It is so funny watching you brown nosers in action too.LOL! I liked that one.
If I disagree with my mother on one issue, does that mean I hate her?
It's funny how none of us is supposed to disagree with George W. Bush on anything.
Of course George W. Bush is better than Al Gore but that doesn't give "W" the status of a god. My guess is Laura Bush chews his ass out on several matters on a regular basis. (Isn't that what a wife is supposed to do?)
Most guys don't even want their best friends to kick them in the balls.
(Hey, "W," we didn't elect you to kick us in the balls!)
To: c-b 1
Thanks for the info.
To: AAABEST
The Cascade Siskiyou Ecological Emphasis Area was declared in Clinton's last days right over the border from my district in southern Oregon.
http://www.or.blm.gov/CSNM/archive_notice_of_intent.htm Much of the area is private land. Rules are the people can stay until they go to sell, then they have to sell to the government.
The local Oregon county held hearings and the majority of people did not want the monument. There was a vocal minority of leftists from Ashland who favoured it. They call it the "staging area for the Ark" because of its alleged bio-diversity.
They also tried to fold in my area by including a big mass of private land around the Horseshoe Ranch - a deer reserve co-managed between the BLM and CA DFG. They have tried all sorts of sneaky underhanded things to create a plan to target acquisition of more land east of the I-5 corridor from the border to the Klamath River. Locals and our Board of Supervisors vehemently oppose this.
The newest phase is the acquisition of a corridor of land from Copco Lake up into Oregon at J.C. Boyle dam from PacifiCorps. Cooincidentally, the BLM has PacifiCorps in a vise grip over the relicensing of its 6 dams on the Klamath. The BLM wants to destroy white water rafting, close motorized access, eliminate grazing, eliminating peaking power generation at Copco dam and change the flows. The Board of Supervisors opposes this proposal.
The BLM has been extremely arrogant and underhanded in its continuing push to federalize more lands across the top of the state. It consistently goes against the loud and vocal opposition of local people and seems to march to an urban environmental agenda. About 62% of the county is already managed by the feds.
We are seeing an increasing pressure to set aside land and water use in our mid-Klamath area as a mitigation for the Klamath Project.
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posted on
08/30/2003 9:10:37 AM PDT
by
marsh2
To: AAABEST; All
If I remember correctly once an Executive Order becomes law, it takes more than a stroke of a pen to rescind it.
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posted on
08/30/2003 9:24:07 AM PDT
by
dixie sass
(GOD bless America)
To: AAABEST; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; amom; AndreaZingg; Anonymous2; ApesForEvolution; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
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posted on
08/30/2003 9:49:19 AM PDT
by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!
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posted on
08/30/2003 9:54:58 AM PDT
by
E.G.C.
To: AAABEST
lol lol bump for later, I will be back!
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