Armey Opposes AL Governor Riley's Sept. 9 Tax Vote

Citizens for a Sound Economy ^ | 08-27-03 | Armey, Richard

[Theodore R.]

It seems that the Democrats are rallying to the nominally Republican governor, and the Republicanss are rising in opposition!

[Princeliberty]

Riley backing coming form all the Democratic crooks
in Montgomery.

Actually the majority of both Republican and Democrat
and Independent voters are going to vote against this.

Riley will be defeated in 2006 by Judge Moore in
the Primary.

[Redbob]

The real irony in this campaign is that those at the lowest rungs of the economic ladder, the ones most likely to "benefit" from the proposed tax changes, are also the LEAST likely to vote for them!

Seems there is more optimism there and more intelligence than the Dimocrats - and Riley - would have you think.

[Theodore R.]

I would think that the "little guys" will be confused about this AL tax election and won't even vote for the most part. It seems to be the Democrat base that is rallying to Governor Riley here.

[Theodore R.]

Why do you suppose Riley put himself on the line for this?

I personally do not think Judge Moore will run for governor. Riley may not seek reelection if his popularity drops so drastically after this tax measure is defeated.

[Gunslingr3]

Riley will be defeated in 2006 by Judge Moore in the Primary.

Is Moore against raising taxes, even 'fer the chillrun'?

[Onelifetogive]

I supported Gov. Riley and I am on the Republican Party Executive Committee of one of the most Republican Counties in the state. I do not support the tax increase. Some in our party do. There are actually son good measures in there...but not nearly enough to justify the tax increases.

It will go down in flames...but Riley is early in his term and has time to recover.

Riley has REALLY been pissing me off with his commercials that "passage" of this plan will result in the ending of some "corrupt" and irresponsible spending practices. What that means is: "If the citizens of Alabama won't raise taxes, the government will NOT stop corrupt practices....."

[Princeliberty]

Moore is a true conservative he certainly will be
and will push a real reform package.

Riley will be crazy if he even bothers to run.

[Princeliberty]

Moore not doing the 10 Commandments fight in order
to run for anothe office. But his supports are
going to pushing him to run and given a chance
to change state government and Alabama is
a massive way I think Moore will do his duty and run.

Riley seems to have just wimped out. Rather than
fight the good ole boys and push for real reform
he cut a deal thinking it would be the easy
way out instead its going to be the easy way
out of being governor.

Riley very well may not even run.

[Reagan Man]

>>>>Proposition 13 sparked an anti-tax revolt across the entire country and helped elect Ronald Reagan president.

No doubt about it. Proposition 13 was instumental in starting a wave of serious anti-tax revolts in many states. And American's are still overtaxed today. Having said that, Proposition 13 wasn't the overriding factor for American's electing Ronald Reagan POTUS. It had everything to do with an incompetent and inadequate Democrat president named Jimmah Carter. Carter almost destroyed the economic engine of this great country, severely weakened its military capability and left American's questioning their future. And all in a mere four years.

[Theodore R.]

Despite all you write with such conviction, there are still millions of American citizens who admire and laud Jimmuh Carter. Even when he left the Southern Baptist Church for a liberal alternative, Southern Baptists continue to admire and support him. Now he is called if not American's "greatest president," at least its greatest "ex-president." He spends most of his waking hours, it would seem, trying to gain justification in the eyes of the voters who defeated him in 1980. One of his biggest boosters now is of course Gerald R. Ford, Jr., the man he unseated in 1976 on grounds of the "misery index," which Carter invented and which came back to bite him!

It was also Jimmuh Carter who appointed the liberal judge Myron Thompson in AL.

[Moby Grape]

You are 100% right about Riley. He took the oath and began sounding like the republican that was elected...annouced CUTS, cuts in spending, lay-offs in the bloated state worker forces...BUT, then, Paul Hubbard (head of the Alabama Education Assocation and one of the RICHEST men in Alabama), along with heads of the state worker unions, etc. got Riley to a private meeting a a hotel....Riley became a democrat over night...something happened in that room.

Riley need not run for re-election, he would be able to get 15% of the GOP vote.

[Reagan Man]

>>>Despite all you write with such conviction, there are still millions of American citizens who admire and laud Jimmuh Carter.

And as you point out, there's even a former Republican, president who has grown to "admire and laud" Jimmah Boy. I think age has taken its toll on the poor moderate liberal, Gerald Ford. Very sad.

[Theodore R.]

Poor Jimmuh Carter, even the smile was fake!!!

[Princeliberty]

When was this meeting?

[Theodore R.]

Some of these Republicans have a "disease" in that they sit around longingly wanting and waiting for a Democrat to praise them -- tell them what great guys they are, how much of a service they have been to the country, and how much they will be missed now that they have been defeated!

[libstripper]

I doubt that it has. Lyndon Johnson said Ford had played too much football without a helmet, then he appointed Ford to the Warren Comission. Ford has always been the DemonRATS' favorite "Republican" shill.

[libstripper]

Same thing happened the lsast four years here in Tennessee. We had a RINO governor, Don Sundquist, who denounced a state income tax until he was elected to his second term, with my vote and those of thousands of other Republicans and conservatives. Then he promptly betrayed all of us and spent his entire second term trying to cram an income tax down out throats. We beat him, after nearly staging a physical revolution.

My heart goes out to the people of Alabama, since they have another of these RINO RATS. The only thing to do is massively defeat this abomination and make sure Riley has no chance of ever holding another elective office in Alabama.

[Theodore R.]

Why do you suppose Riley deserted his people? Could his narrow victory margin in 2002 cause him to want Democrat support to obtain a comfortable reelection margin? Some Republicans though just can't wait for a Democrat to say something nice about them. One rarely sees a Democrat sit around waiting for a Republican to compliment him.

[phil_will1]

"Despite all you write with such conviction, there are still millions of American citizens who admire and laud Jimmuh Carter........
Now he is called if not American's 'greatest president,' at least its greatest 'ex-president.'"

Here in Ga, Carter is viewed largely as a failed President, and as much more effective as an ex-president. Noone doubts his sincerity or character. However, we also remember when the prime rate and inflation were both around 20%, our helplessness at the Iran hostage crisis, an economy that seemed out of control, and Carter's philosophizing about America's "malaise". I know some who worked on his campaign in 76 who were glad he lost in 80 to Reagan.

One of the great mysteries of my lifetime is how the pollsters could have missed the 80 outcome so badly. Just before the election, the pollsters were calling it too close to call and Reagan won one of the all-time biggest landslides ever. Go figure.