Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:

Various ^ | August 28, 2003

[floriduh voter]

I'd love to see Greer's perp walk.

[Theodore R.]

your worst nightmare, Judge Greer.

I think Greer's worst nightmare is being disabled himself. He hates the disabled even though it is supposed to be "politically correct" to "care" for the "disabled." He wouldn't even "lower himself" to examine Terri before he sentenced her to death. What a coward!

[Ohioan from Florida]

Note that the precedent they were to have been prepared to argue (Oh, what was the name of it?) in the hastily filed motion before this is not mentioned, IIRC, in this order. That precedent was clearly related to jurisdiction. IMHO, jurisdiction is no longer in question because this precedent is not mentioned at all in the new Order. To me, that is a very good sign.

I couldn't agree more. To me, that the "Rooker-Feldman" argument was NOT brought up in this order signifies that Lazzara agrees that it IS within the jurisdiction of the Federal court.

However, I am beginning to wonder what the implication of the AG's office being asked whether or not they'd like to join the proceedings mean. I think there's two possibilities:

1.) That the AG could look into the "charges" against Schiavo and Greer and decide to align themselves with Terri's parents. OR

2.) That the AG could be a party in the name of the State of Florida, and that would be seen as aligning with Schiavo and Greer. IOW, that the Schindlers are also suing the State.

Since I am not a legal hound, I don't know how to interpret what the implications of the AG becoming a party to this case are. Once I read that Pamela has asked to "call off the hounds", I am wondering if it's a good thing or a bad thing to have the AG become involved.

I still have a good feeling about Lazzara, though. It seems like he is taking this pretty seriously, and wants to give Terri a chance. Let's hope that won't be too late for Terri.

[windchime]

"Once I read that Pamela has asked to "call off the hounds", I am wondering if it's a good thing or a bad thing to have the AG become involved."


His office probably can't get anything done besides answer phones. If phenn asked....my guess would be he would NOT be taking an adversarial position. Just guessing...haven't emailed phenn for the reason 'cause I figure she's busy.

[windchime]

"...the AG's office said they never got anything!"


Maybe whatever is up doesn't require them to receive anything or maybe something has been received SINCE we inquired.

I was in the car (radio time) and didn't hear anything about it this afternoon.

[Deo volente]

Re: Attorney General Crist

"His office probably can't get anything done besides answer phones."



THANK YOU!

AG Crist has already received countless phone calls, Emails, faxes, etc.
One more, or a thousand more, won't add ANYTHING.

Leave him alone for a bit, so he can actually work on this case!
And he's not going to tell us anything if we call!

Some people here need to be a little more patient, AT THIS TIME.
We've done the footwork.

Contacting media is far more important and effective right now, IMO.

[Ohioan from Florida]

haven't emailed phenn for the reason 'cause I figure she's busy.

Well, I did e-mail her. She didn't go into specifics with me, but she did say that hounding Crist could work against Terri at this point. Perhaps it would be better to "lay low" as far as Crist is concerned. Like Deo said, we could keep up the e-mails to the media.

[windchime]

You're welcome, Deo volente. I don't KNOW anything, but it seemed logical.

You're right. The media, particularly those that don't do their homework, are the ones who need to be 'hounded' with accurate information.

[windchime]

"Well, I did e-mail her."


Thanks for sharing, Ohioan from Florida. Sounds like it could be for a variety of reasons, with none of them doing Terri's case any good.

[sarasmom]

BTTT

[pc93]

Please join this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/986663/posts?q=1&&page=451

[Robert Drobot]

My reading of the most recent posts on this thread prompts me to post my thoughts included in another thread on the same subject.

There is considerable misunderstanding in this thread about the standing Florida Attorney General Crist has before Judge Lazzara. Primarily, it is believed he has been asked to step in on Terri's behalf.

Not true.

Crist must represent and argue that the statutes of Florida are Constitutional contrary to the arguments of Terri's legal team.

IMHO Crist is, by his office, obliged to be present, and defend the Constitutionality of statutes the State of Florida is employing (the common tag is 'under color of law') to murder Terri. His failure to appear or minimally file a brief with the court would be a prima facia showing that Florida has knowingly acted in a manner it knew to be in violation of Terri's United States Constitutional rights, and in the broader sense, a violation of the rights of those hospitalized innocents already executed by the Death 'r Us state.

This would, IMO, open a floodgate of wrongful death litigation by the estates of those already dead. Talk about 'what-goes-round-comes-round' justice.

Crist will be in court. Not as a friend to Terri, but rather to defend the legality of a 'system' of state sanctioned murder.

Should FReepers back off on calling Crist?

No.

Roll up the red carpet. He's an active member of the 'system'.

[Theodore R.]

What you are saying about Crist and the system, reminds me of why we did not "declare war" per se after 9-11. Had we declared war, wouldn't the insurance companies have been able to escape payment on claims from the attacks?

So, you are saying that Crist must defend the corrupt FL system for "financial reasons" even if he personally things Greer is dishonest in the way he has handled the case?

It really is a corrupt state and a corrupt system. How the Schindlers must wish they had never heard the word "Florida"! It reminds me of the novel about the "man without a country" who said that he wished he had never heard the word "America."

[Theodore R.]

Your understanding of Crist's role here (and Jeb as well) makes me have no hope at all of stopping this murder. Why? I think the federal judge will say that his court "has no jurisdiction in this family matter." Forget arguing about the pledge of allegiance, particularly the part about "liberty and justice for all."

[kimmie7]

My understanding of Crist's role in this would be more in line with a public defender. Because the state has been accused of crimes, the state must be represented as a separate entity in court. It is Crist's job to assume that role. JMHO

[Robert Drobot]

"....So, you are saying that Crist must defend the corrupt FL system for "financial reasons"...."

In post 5332, I wrote:

"....Crist must represent and argue that the statutes of Florida are Constitutional contrary to the arguments of Terri's legal team.

"IMHO Crist is, by his office, obliged to be present, and defend the Constitutionality of statutes the State of Florida is employing (the common tag is 'under color of law') to murder Terri. His failure to appear or minimally file a brief with the court would be a prima facia showing that Florida has knowingly acted in a manner it knew to be in violation of Terri's United States Constitutional rights, and in the broader sense, a violation of the rights of those hospitalized innocents already executed by the Death 'r Us state."

He will appear before Judge Lazzara as an officer of the State of Florida, in his official capacity as that state's Attorney General. It's his elected duty to defend the laws and Constitution of Florida.

"....financial reasons...." are not a factor.

[kimmie7]

Correct. The Attorney General is the constitutional, statewide elected official who serves as the attorney for the State of Florida. The Attorney General is responsible for the enforcement of state consumer protection and antitrust laws as well as civil prosecution of criminal racketeering. In the area of criminal law, the Attorney General represents the State when those convicted appeal their convictions, including capital murder cases.

According to the Florida Law Website it IS Crist's job to represent the state of Florida in this action, in the state's role as defendant.

Emphasis is mine, and is only a very brief synopsis from the website. I am sure there are more specifics there, but I'm at work and don't have a lot of time for Googling. ;-)

[kimmie7]

Also see the other post, 535-548.

[Theodore R.]

"....So, you are saying that Crist must defend the corrupt FL system for financial reasons...."

You said in an earlier post that Crist must defend the FL euthanasia statutes or familes of those already euthanasized might sue for damages. That's what I meant by the term "financial reasons."

[freeparoundtheclock]

It's much better if Crist chooses to not intervene in the Federal Case. I called Jeb again today. Public pressure on Governor Bush can't hurt at any stage.