Free trade's victims turning against Bush, GOP

The Herald Sun ^ | August 25, 2003 | associated press

[GOP_1900AD]

Another, more modern discrediting factor of the Austrian School is the set of harsh facts which result from the reality of weapons of mass destruction. Whereas, up until about 1960, the USA could afford to experiment with shopkeeperdom at the expense of true power projection and true national security, since then we have entered a near zero sum situation where the extent to which we drive globalist shopkeeperdom erodes our ultimate ability to preserve our national sovereignty and erodes our theoretical capability to emerge victorious from the stochastically inevitable, next war between great powers. The concept of a war between great power which could literally erase most a nation's economy in a day did not factor into the calculus of the Austrian School. The Austrian School is most applicable to putting pressure on local and national governments to ease local restrictions on merchants and manufacturers. It certainly does not apply to a nuclear charged global chess board.

[Texas_Dawg]

This issue is snowballing with people on the street as well as in this forum. The party that offers a solution will stand a excellent chance in 2004.

Haha. A "solution"? You mean that is convincing enough in its pandering to economically retarded people?

I don't disagree with you that people vote the economy. But that has nothing to do with understanding economics. That being said, this economy will be fine enough in 2004 for George W. Bush to win easily. It already is right now.

[StolarStorm]

Your racist and caustic remarks are working wonderfully to drive others away from your viewpoint. Keep up the good work.

[scottlang]

Haha. A "solution"? You mean that is convincing enough in its pandering to economically retarded people?

I don't disagree with you that people vote the economy. But that has nothing to do with understanding economics. That being said, this economy will be fine enough in 2004 for George W. Bush to win easily. It already is right now.


The vote of the retarded as you like to term them still count as much as yours or mine.

[Texas_Dawg]

Your racist and caustic remarks are working wonderfully to drive others away from your viewpoint. Keep up the good work.

When I think there's a chance of convincing people of my viewpoint I use a different strategy. On FR, with set-in-stone Buchanan Brigaders and people even remotely willing to go along with them, I seek the nuclear approach. I'm not interested in bringing Buchanan and his crowd under the GOP umbrella. I want them removed from us as far as possible. In the decade since old Pat got the boot, the GOP has dominated.

[Texas_Dawg]

The vote of the retarded as you like to term them still count as much as yours or mine.

Yes they do. That's why I don't mind Bush pandering to them as much as he needs to to win re-election (and he has pandered to them a bunch and will probably do so further this Fall by giving them more tariffs).

[Gunslingr3]

I reject the so called understanding as religous in nature and not economic.

My acceptance of Liberty as man's ideal is the consequence of rational consideration, not faith.

It has to to do with teh fundamental view of humanity

This is the crux. Your mathematical view of economics makes one man interchangeable with another, as I said earlier, mere cogs. I see them as individuals, and want them at liberty to pursue happiness free from the constraints on their ability to produce and trade that you seek to impose, for their own good of course...

[Gunslingr3]

If you are stating that faith in these men should be established as a basis for American policy I would again refer you to teh Constitution.

I'll stick with the Declaration of Independence as my basis for American policy.

[StolarStorm]

Continuing to harp on the "white" european rant is extremely offensive. Many of the anti-offshoreing folks on this forum are not white and besides their race is irrelevent. Please stop making it an issue. You aren't doing FR a service.

[Texas_Dawg]

Continuing to harp on the "white" european rant is extremely offensive. Many of the anti-offshoreing folks on this forum are not white and besides their race is irrelevent. Please stop making it an issue. You aren't doing FR a service.

Come now... I don't really need to go back through the numerous posts that Poohbah, Chancellor, ArneFufkin, Dane, RDB3, and many others of us have highlighted from paleos along these lines do I?

[Texas_Dawg]

:-)

[ex-snook]

These threads sure bring out the foreign interest leftist wackos who attack Buchanan personally because they know Pat is for America first. Let's review the bidding. Pat was right about.

-Free trade will cause unemployment not more jobs. 
-Illegal immigration is bad for the USA. 
-Abortion is bad. 
-Homosexual practices are bad. 
-Foreign entanglement will bring war to our shores. 
-Gore and Bush saw balanced budgets, tax cuts, government spending for as far as the eye could see, Buchanan didn't. 

The New World order cabal wants to take over. America beware. Foreign military and economic empire will give us the same future as England.

[StolarStorm]

Look, you really crossed the line with your insinuations that anti-free trade people are NAZI's, racists and so forth. If you don't realize that, you will eventually get yourself banned.

[hchutch]

Why should he? I'll bve honest, I had a bad feeling about a lot of the fuss that the outsourcing threads had generated. Lo and behold, I noticed something interesting, from David Frum's word processing program:

"Francis advocated a politics of uninhibited racial nationalism — a politics devoted to the protection of the interests of what he called the 'Euro-American cultural core' of the American nation. He argued that the time had come for conservatives to jettison their old commitment to limited government: A 'nationalist ethic,' he wrote in 1991, 'may often require government action.'

"So, Chronicles advocated protectionism for American industry and restrictions on nonwhite immigration. It defended minimum-wage laws and attacked corporations that moved operations off-shore."
http://www.nationalreview.com/frum/frum031903.asp

Very, very interesting, IMO.

[Texas_Dawg]

I can only imagine the party going on at the Buchanan Compound on 9/11. Outside of the morbidity of it, that had to be quite a bash.

[Texas_Dawg]

Look, you really crossed the line with your insinuations that anti-free trade people are NAZI's, racists and so forth. If you don't realize that, you will eventually get yourself banned.

Right... because we haven't been called "traitors", "globosocialists", "imperialists", "Turd World"-lovers, etc, etc... on these threads recently.

[MEGoody]

"The cost of living in Silicon Valley."

I'm assuming you'd consider moving to a less expensive area of the country if your hubby lost his job?

[Texas_Dawg]

Very, very interesting, IMO.

Not fair! You cannot insinuate that people are anti-Semitic or anti-immigrant for insinuating that Jews and immigrants are to blame for all their problems. That's not fair!

[Poohbah]

Look, you really crossed the line with your insinuations that anti-free trade people are NAZI's, racists and so forth. If you don't realize that, you will eventually get yourself banned.

Hmm. Has StolarStorm outed himself as a moderator here?