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Free trade's victims turning against Bush, GOP
The Herald Sun ^ | August 25, 2003 | associated press

Posted on 08/25/2003 2:05:47 PM PDT by snopercod

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To: Mo1
I can understand the un-employed liberals that would a Dem .. but I cannot understand why any conservative in their right mind that would vote for Howard Dean or Hillary .. or to throw their vote away .. hence allowing a Dem be elected

Mo, there just aren't enough hard core conservatives or lib-uh-rhuls to elect anyone, or block the election of anyone. There are enough people in the squishy middle to swing it either way...

401 posted on 08/25/2003 8:25:56 PM PDT by null and void
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To: Junior_G
Not that it matters, indeed. God forbid anyone should ever mistake T-Dawg for a "merchant".

Hey, this thread being officially Merchantrein I wouldn't want to get kicked off.

402 posted on 08/25/2003 8:26:02 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Proudly posting without the </sarcasm> tag for at least a few months.)
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To: null and void
There are enough people in the squishy middle to swing it either way...

Especially all those damn Merchants.

403 posted on 08/25/2003 8:27:45 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Proudly posting without the </sarcasm> tag for at least a few months.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
"Of course. Don't you know all Merchants run TV and the media?"

Great! So if you would so kidly get me on Charmed as Phoebe's love interest and bring Back Firefly while you're at it. (Stupid Fox Network!)

404 posted on 08/25/2003 8:27:53 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Great! So if you would so kidly get me on Charmed as Phoebe's love interest and bring Back Firefly while you're at it. (Stupid Fox Network!)

I think we can officially declare this thread hopelessly off-topic.

405 posted on 08/25/2003 8:29:26 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Texas_Dawg
Are they Viennese?
406 posted on 08/25/2003 8:29:55 PM PDT by null and void
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To: Junior_G
I think we can officially declare this thread hopelessly off-topic.

Off-topic? Sure. But if you're looking for where this thread really went wheels off, Post #357 is your culprit. Notice dogbyte12 put out that little doozy and then bolted.

407 posted on 08/25/2003 8:31:26 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Proudly posting without the </sarcasm> tag for at least a few months.)
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To: Junior_G
"I think we can officially declare this thread hopelessly off-topic."

Oh sorry... Down with all you Free-traitor-capitilist running-dog-merchants!!!!

Vote Dean!

< /sarcasm > (for the truly clueless among you)

408 posted on 08/25/2003 8:33:35 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: null and void
There are enough people in the squishy middle to swing it either way...

I realize that and that is why I don't understand how anyone that calls themselves a conservative would take a chance and throw their vote away

409 posted on 08/25/2003 8:33:42 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: Texas_Dawg
But if you're looking for where this thread really went wheels off, Post #357 is your culprit. Notice dogbyte12 put out that little doozy and then bolted.

So he did. And thus ruining my follow-up post about Bay Buchanan. The cur!!!

410 posted on 08/25/2003 8:38:34 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Mo1
Know what a conservative is? A liberal who was mugged the night before. Know what a liberal is? A conservative whose job was just out sourced yesterday. (/sarcasm)
411 posted on 08/25/2003 8:39:51 PM PDT by Archangelsk ("What did you do during the great World War II? Well, I shoveled [dirt] in Louisiana." Patton)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Wow, you should read Atlas Shrugged. Enact that law and watch how fast every blue chip company in America leaves US soil!

Take a good look around you. For all intents and purposes they've already done exactly that. They're moving their employment offshore, and when nobody can afford to buy their products, their sales will go offshore as well.

And Ayn Rand, who never ran a business in her life, would be standing on the sidelines cheering as hired guns like Robert Zoellick do their worst to gut the American economy and the American middle class along with it.

412 posted on 08/25/2003 8:40:26 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (Support Tom McClintock in spite of what Hugh Hewitt says.)
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To: Euro-American Scum; Texas_Dawg
"And Ayn Rand, who never ran a business in her life, would be standing on the sidelines cheering as hired guns like Robert Zoellick do their worst to gut the American economy and the American middle class along with it."

Robert Zoellick... I bet he is one of those damned Merchants!!!!

413 posted on 08/25/2003 8:43:56 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: Junior_G
I stand corrected, she was Treasurer of the U.S. in 1982. I'd forgotten all about that.
414 posted on 08/25/2003 8:44:34 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Poohbah
Are you one of those folks who said that Reagan's military buildup was an example of US warmongering?

Nope. I was and am one of those who believe that our military can never be big enough.

Their tenacious pirating of our technology points out their Achilles' heel: they can't do any large-scale R&D of their own.

Oh yeah sure. Just like how Japan's copying of our technology got them into many of our now past industries, which they have advanced tremendously. Are you one of those that think Japan is a forever washed up industrial giant? LOL.

Let me tell you something that even an 8th grader would intuitively know, when a country cedes industry after industry to their overseas "competitors" without anything but trade deficits in return that country will most certainly reach a point where it loses the critical mass and technical know how to invent new industries. Common sense is obviously lost on you.

415 posted on 08/25/2003 8:48:25 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: Mad Dawgg
Robert Zoellick... I bet he is one of those damned Merchants!!!!

Oh you know it. So is Milton Friedman.

416 posted on 08/25/2003 8:49:11 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (We must always keep FR pure and Merchant-rein.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
"Oh you know it. So is Milton Friedman."

And Greenspan... don't forget Greenspan!

417 posted on 08/25/2003 8:51:23 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: WRhine
Oh yeah sure. Just like how Japan's copying of our technology got them into many of our now past industries, which they have advanced tremendously.

Look where it got them.

China's merely copying them.

BTW, Japan's one major R&D effort was the "fifth generation" of computers that would completely demolish the US technology lead.

It went...NOWHERE.

Are you one of those that think Japan is a forever washed up industrial giant? LOL.

Until they're willing to write off a few trillion dollars of their bad debt (imagine the US simply walking away from about $100 trillion of debt), that's EXACTLY what they'll remain.

418 posted on 08/25/2003 8:51:26 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Gunslingr3
Using government to artificially raise the price of goods isn't going to help us, it's going to lower are living standards.

The government is already being used to artificially raise the price of goods manufactured in America. Switching to a tariff based revenue system, rather than an income based one, would take away the economic bias against American manufacturing and put that bias on foreign manufacturers instead. Is there a reason that you prefer having the economic bias against American manufacturers rather than the Chicom manufacturers?

419 posted on 08/25/2003 8:52:34 PM PDT by per loin
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To: per loin
Switching to a tariff based revenue system, rather than an income based one

You think that it will be a SWITCH?

BWAHAHA!

They'll make it BOTH!

420 posted on 08/25/2003 8:54:09 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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