BOILING SEAS LINKED TO MASS EXTINCTION (AND BIBLICAL FLOOD)

Nature Science Update ^ | 22 August 2003 | TOM CLARKE

[Thoro]

"The Earth Farts."

Just don't light a match.

And be sure to blame Pluto!

[frithguild]

You're scaring me.

[colorado tanker]

Looks like we need a Kyoto Protocal against global belching. That'll take care of the problem all right.

[Siegfried]

Maybe he meant to say "even a fast moving motor home" since everyone knows big vehicles are the ultimate source of all doom.

I thought he meant Kevin Costner did it.

[Enterprise]

"And be sure to blame Pluto!"

Aw, that would hurt the poor doggie's feelings.

[blam]

Professor Mike Baillie in his book, Exodus To Arthur, speculates (with some supporting data) that the comet fragments that fell in the Celtic Sea in the 540AD time frame may have released some of this gas. The Dark Ages began in 540AD. SO....

[blam]

"Scientists, on the other hand, were initially puzzled by the root cause, and by the abrupt onset, of this mysterious and tragic event. "

The French have devised a method and are presently venting this gas from the bottom of these lakes...it should not accumulate again and cause this problem

[auggy]

"The Earth Farts."

BIGTIME

[Young Werther]

I thought that Dr Ballard was surveying the Black Sea for evidence of the "Biblical Flood". He has reported a submerged coastline many miles to sea from the current shore and the surmise is that when the Ice Age ended the glaciers melted and the sea level rose to current levels. In the course of this melt the Med was refilled and the Bosphorous was a waterfall filling the Black Sea to its current level with all those old seacoast cities being inundated.

Was there an Ark? Since Mount Ararat is just to the East of the Black Sea and various reports of the Ark have been made, then maybe there was a flood but no BRAIN FART!

[mamelukesabre]

You ever inhale pure CO2??

I have. Pure CO2 is poisonous and it hurts. I'll give you an idea of what it feels like...

You know that feeling when the fizz of a soda pop goes up your nose? Now immagine that feeling going all the way down your throat and also into into your lungs! THat's exactly what it's like to inhale pure CO2.

[blam]

"I thought that Dr Ballard was surveying the Black Sea for evidence of the "Biblical Flood". "

The Latest.

Excavating The 'Perfect Ship' (Black Sea)

[Young Werther]

Thanks for the links!

[Light Speed]

As mentioned...go **Google.."The Electric Universe"..Wal Thornhill and company...some good abstracts are also on PDF if you are Adobe'd : )

The Mythology reality deserves some measure of consideration.

It challenges frontally the conformity models..[accretion formation]...the reader is left to consider if everything has been plodding allong slowly over Billions of years..or if time measure values are off significantly..especially do too Isotope decay rates..which could be very wrong in projection evaluation.

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an excerpt from a post on another website by me.

plinking ablout on the net has turned up some info new to me...something of interest..and a valid point maker..that the previous dating models for our Earth and the Solar System may be way off.

the culprits know it...just hope we do not clammour relentlssly so that they have to amend their date claims. an excerpt from a chat site on Radio dating.

Past, present and future together Consider then. Radiometric dating methods (those measuring geologic time by rate of radioactive decay) have been used to date formations that could be associated with Noahs Flood. These dates supposedly prove these formations are millions of years old rather than thousands. Yet we find that different methods can yield radically different results. As The Science of Evolution explains: Several methods have been devised for estimating the age of the earth and its layers of rocks. These methods rely heavily on the assumption of uniformitarianism, i.e., natural processes have proceeded at relatively constant rates throughout the earths history . . . It is obvious that radiometric techniques may not be the absolute dating methods that they are claimed to be. Age estimates on a given geological stratum by different radiometric methods are often quite different (sometimes by hundreds of millions of years).

There is no absolutely reliable long-term radiological ˜clock (William Stansfield, 1977, pp. 80, 84).

The potassium-argon [K-Ar] dating method, used to date lava flows, also has problems”as shown by studies of Mount St. Helens. The conventional K-Ar dating method was applied to the 1986 dacite flow from the new lava dome at Mount St. Helens, Washington. Porphyritic dacite which solidified on the surface of the lava dome in 1986 gives a whole rock K-Ar ˜age™ of 0.35 OR - 0.05 million years (Ma). Mineral concentrates from this same dacite give K-Ar ˜ages™ from 0.35 OR - .06 Ma to 2.8 OR - 0.6 Ma. These ˜ages™ are, of course, preposterous [since we know the rock formed recently]. The fundamental dating assumption (˜no radiogenic argon was present when the rock formed™) is questioned by these data. Instead, data from this Mount St. Helens dacite argue that significant ‘excess argon™ was present when the lava solidified in 1986 . . . This study of Mount St. Helens dacite causes the more fundamental question to be asked”how accurate are K-Ar ˜ages™ from the many other phenocryst-containing lava flows worldwide? (Stephen Austin, Excess Argon within Mineral Concentrates from the New Dacite Lava Dome at Mount St. Helens Volcano, Creation Ex Nihilo Technical Journal, Vol. 10, No. 3, 1996, pp. 335-344). In laymans terms, these volcanic rocks that we know were formed in 1986”less than 20 years ago”were scientifically  dated to between 290,000 and 3.4 million years old! Such examples serve to illustrate the fallibility of the dating methods on which many modern scientists rely so heavily.

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A reply to my post:

On the accuracy of radiodating, I clean forgot to mention about the Mount St Helens eruption.
Thanks for picking that up.
Proves how unreliable such dating methods can be.

It is erroneous dating assumptions such as these that form the basis of most Earth sciences.

Having fixed the date of the earliest rocks at around 4.5 billion years (uranium/lead) and obviously just before that, the formation of the Earth, then the principles of astronomy must equally follow suit and rely on vast amounts of time.

With uranium/lead dating, how do they know for sure how much uranium existed in the original rock sample to begin with and also know its isotopic content.
With extreme electrification or exposure to radiation, these conditions can change abruptly, giving entirely different readings.

Same with carbon-14 dating.
Cosmic rays striking the upper atmospheric produce fast moving neutrons, which combine with nitrogen atoms to produce carbon -14 isotopes.
This in combination with oxygen produces carbon dioxide which is absorbed by vegetation.

Many animals eat vegetation and when they die, the carbon-14 decays.

Basically, the theory assumes that carbon-14 is in equilibrium with the atmosphere and is broken down at the same rate at which it is being produced.
Therefore the influx of cosmic rays has remained constant too.
But how do they know this for sure.?

A stronger magnetic field strength in the past can deflect these cosmic rays, giving a much lower carbon-14 content.

Are we to say then that fossils with a much reduced carbon-14 content are of a great age (dinosaurs etc), measured in millions of years?

[farmfriend]

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List for articles regarding early civilizations , life of all forms, - dinosaurs - etc.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this ping list.

[ido_now]

"When I take a bath, I usually sit up and read, but I can also go prone and submerge myself, all with the same amount of water. Judging from the clams on Mount Everest I would guess that it was prone at one time."

Then the question becomes where did the prone person come from and where did he go? Mountain ranges were "pushed up" by tectonic plate forces sometime making sea beds "appear" on top of what have become mountains.

[ido_now]

"To cause a flood of Biblical proportions it only has to happen to your house. At the time of the great flood there was only a small population of people on earth. It did not require flooding all of earth only where they lived."

I believe that it was raining for 30 days and nights, correct? Please explain how say 10,000 feet of water above normal sea level is able to stay in place in one area without having gravity cause it to "equalize" and spread over the entire globe within a period of 30 days.

[ido_now]

"Why are there marine fossils at the summit of Mount Everest?

Cordially,"

Ever hear about plate tectonics where subduction between plates of the earth force sea beds, and other parts of the earth, into mountain ranges?

Cordially.

[ido_now]

"The bible says it came from Heaven. The word "heaven" in this case doesn't refer to the sky. My assumption by a literal reading is the water that covered the earth came from across the divide that separates this world from heaven.

One could argue theologically that only heaven sourced water could wipe the earth clean from all sin."

Of the four responses to my post yours is the only real answer to my question. It was a miracle.

[Manic_Episode]

Genesis 7:11
In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.


I wonder if some mountains were formed during the great flood. If the world was more even before the flood it would take less water to cover it.

[Diamond]

Then the question becomes where did the prone person come from and where did he go? Mountain ranges were "pushed up" by tectonic plate forces sometime making sea beds "appear" on top of what have become mountains.

Yes, but then what is the point of your water volume calculations?

Cordially,