THE WAR PARTY UNMASKED

Antiwar.com ^ | 8/25/03 | Justin Raimondo

[NYCVirago]

Texas Quarterback, I must compliment you on your quick mastery of the forum. You've only been here a few hours, and you managed to create a profile and find this thread. What a talented newbie you are!

[BlackElk]

Put me down as the Catholic who is always going to attack Justine. If Hitchens is right once in a while, bear in mind that a stopped clock is right twice a day and that is two times more than lavender Raimondo will be in his entire life.

[JohnGalt]

Raimondo is a noted historian whether you like it or not, and he has done as much as anyone to rehabilitate the maligned Charles Lindbergh, a position I think it was you, agreed with.

With all the figures in the world that are worthy of the great art of iconoclasm, Hitchens aimed his invictus as an 80 year old women who lived a life of poverty.

Strange days indeed.

[BlackElk]

Conservative and libertarian are NOT equivalent most especially since Roe vs. Wade and the recent Texas sodomy case. If a state is necessary to prevent murder and to deal with the death-dealing "love" that once would not speak its name and now will not shut up and wants public subsidies, then so be it. That does not necessitate neo-isolationism or cramped and unimaginative politics based on deep-root canal economics.

You may also remember that the Vichy French were the worst surrender monkeys even among the perennially gutless French. That equates with their contemporary Neville Chamberlain and with their modern counterparts: the paleowhatevers.

[BlackElk]

Lindbergh: great flier, negligent parent, political naif.

[JohnGalt]

I realize left-libertarians were incorrect on the recent sodomy case, however, you give the game away by pretending that 'libertarians' are a myopic ideology.

Rightwing libertarians, or 'radical localists' stood correctly on both issues, but you knew that, and were just practicing dishonest polemics to your discredit.

Where as left-libertarians believe in a supra-state to over-rule local entities to enforce abstract rights, rightwing libertarians believe that there should be no supra-state and thus the sodomy ruling was a terrible blow to liberty as liberty is preserved by the separation of powers into functioning institutions.

The Vichycons in the Mainstream Right have surrendered on every issue, accomplished nothing in 14 years, and deserve to be exposed to sunshine. Their alliance with the Marxist Right, and their constant apologies for what good fellows Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz really are, is silly.

[JohnGalt]

Charles Lindbergh: patriot, warts and all.

Ask me if I can say the same thing about Richard Perle?

[BlackElk]

Raimondo is a noted enemy of our nation, a noted faggot, a noted surrender monkey, a noted idiot but not a noted historian. He more resembles Lyndon Larouche in terms If the future of our nation were in Raimondo's hands or whatever, there would be no future.

If Hitchens attacked Mother Teresa, so what, her reputation far transcends his. What would Ayn "Power of Positive Selfishness" Rand, serial adulteress and abortion cheerleader, have said of Mother Teresa. Like Margaret Sanger, Rand despised charity which was Mother Teresa's life. Further, beyond even Sanger, Rand raised hatred of religion (also Mother Teresa's life) to an art form by despising practitioners as "witch doctors."

Raimondo can be expected to ape Rand except insofar as she was an aggressive heterosexual. He will leave no progeny by choice and neither charity nor religious faith fit very well with his chosen way of life.

[GSWarrior]

Raimondo is a noted enemy of our nation

Noted by whom?

[JohnGalt]

That's really all you folks have left isn't it?

Rand was the author of a character in a book I liked and I won't defend her from your fairly resonable and accurate charges. I also liked Its a Wonderful Life even if Frank Kapra was though by Hoovers FBI to be a Red-- I am not sure what point you are making.

You, on the otherhand, are defending a man who used his celebrity to trash an old women? Is Hitchens considered the "ideal man" in your camp?


While I too hold a low opinion of the Weekly Standard, I did not realize yours was lower.

Of course you are aware that the Weekly Standard described as "the definitive history of the Old Right," his Reclaiming the American Right, the Lost Legacy of the Conservative Movement?

[BlackElk]

Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, the late Sidney Hook, the late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Irving Kristol, William Kristol, Midge Decter, Norman Podhoretz, Donald Kagan, Gertrude Himmelfarb, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Pipes, the late Snator Henry "Scoop" Jackson, patriots each and every one and ready for the nation to take whatever actions are necessary and/or wise to defend itself against its enemies foreign and domestic, pre-emptively or otherwise.

Charles Lindbergh: reluctant warrior who fought nonetheless after begging the opportunity to do so in WWII.

John Flynn: XD of America First, opposed WWII before Pearl and folded AF the day after Pearl Harbor and supported WWII, personally and as editor of John Day Jackson's New Haven Register.

PJB behaved like Flynn on Iraq War and therefore a patriot.

Paleowhatevers:

Justine: surrender monkey throughout the raqi experience and uses George McGovern speech titles like "America Come Home" without attribution. Writes for Pravda.

Sam Francis, runs Conservative Citizens Councils newspaper for the organizational heir of the hite Citizens' Councils. Fired by Washington Times for speaking to neo-Nazi American Renaissance organization with references to people like Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz as "kosher conservatives" (wink, wink, nod, nod).

Social eccentrics and cultural eccentrics at the Rockford Institute who should worry less about Serbia and Montenegro and spend the time saved on behalf of the United States. Not in God's lifetime. Knee-jerk anti-military, despise Ronald Reagan as a "neo", love Justine for its anti-Americanism although admittedly not for his, ummmm, lifestyle.

[BlackElk]

By anyone who has traipsed over to his website or who has noted his closeness to Pravda or his knee-jerk opposition to the use of military means to achieve national ends.

[swarthyguy]

JR is an Israeli hating nitwit who bears some unfathomable animus against the Indians, too.

He swallows the jihadisaudi line, hook, line and sinker.

His website downplays all violence done by jihadis to focus on the evil Jews who are behind all the ills of the world.

He picks out interesting articles, but his columns have descended into incoherent diatribes.

He's gay? Was he dumped by some Jewish chick sometime?

[JohnGalt]

"Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, the late Sidney Hook, the late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Irving Kristol, William Kristol, Midge Decter, Norman Podhoretz, Donald Kagan, Gertrude Himmelfarb, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Pipes, the late Snator Henry "Scoop" Jackson, patriots each and every one and ready for the nation to take whatever actions are necessary and/or wise to defend itself against its enemies foreign and domestic, pre-emptively or otherwise."



How do you think Papa Hemmingway would feel about your characterization of Richard Pipes as a hero, and the slayer of Mother Theresa as a man worthy of respect?

[rdb3]

You may as well save your breath. Arguing with an ideologue is like sinking in quicksand.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

It is interesting (and not a little ironic) that chronic fagginess infects the propagandists and theorists of the paleocon ideology as badly as it did the propagandists and theorists of its forebear, National Socialism.

[hchutch]

Interesting, indeed. A lot of them do seem to have a desire to impose their social and cultural agenda using th epower of the federal government.

[Alouette]

Obligatory hairy dwarf graphic.

[GSWarrior]

Nice photoshop work.

[Texas_Dawg]

It is interesting (and not a little ironic) that chronic fagginess infects the propagandists and theorists of the paleocon ideology as badly as it did the propagandists and theorists of its forebear, National Socialism.

Why don't you try spending weeks at a time inside your militia bunker with a few other patriots and see if you don't start getting that sensation as well.