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1 posted on 08/24/2003 6:07:43 AM PDT by truthandlife
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This poll is meaningless if the respondents weren't given a choice of someone to take his place; it is nothing more than a dissatifaction poll on current events.
103 posted on 08/24/2003 11:09:31 AM PDT by Old Professer
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The Un-agile Economy: So with a republican president and a republican congress, where is the economic environment that will incentivize economic development and job creation here in the US? My sense is that the Perot sucking sound is loud and clear. Approximately 50% of most recent college graduates did not receive a job offer. A strategy to place low technology manufacturing production overseas may be fine as long as we develop an agile economic infrastructure to create more wealth and opportunity for our citizens. Why waste the talents of our recent graduates by turning them into waitresses and clerks? Why encourage early retirement? Are human resources really scarce? Is demand really weak? Look around the world - people are impoverished. I'll bet that demand for goods and services has never been stronger! There is more work to do than we know how to do! Why not put in the infrastrucure that empowers people to adjust to new economic realities? Even Adam Smith recognized the value and need for strong labor. Both the previous and current administrations have had a proposal to create a tax free and regulatory free economic enterprise zone - online - that would incentivize new business initiatives while providing employment opportunties that would eliminate welfare and move us rapidly to full employment. Both administrations have done nothing with it. Not even called an Economic Summit to discuss the economic transformation needed to address the affects of globalization.

The Compassion Tax is in the Bush: The hidden tax that Bush won't tell you about is the equivalent of the points of light his father imagined. Compassion is a volunteer who provides professional services to others without compensation. In other words - work for no pay. Now that is not capitalism. It's necessary because when your laid off, or retired (early), or if you are a recent college graduate looking for a job, you might as well volunteer your services for free in order to stay with your chosen profession (or work in a related or new profession). And if you are a professional at work, you might as well dedicate a few hours each week for a just cause. In other words in stead of getting paid for what you do, let's be compassionate so that the nation can provide the services it needs. The democrats would tax your income and pay for the additional compassionate services (pay for work), the republicans will lower the tax, deny the income resource that would pay for work and ask you to provide the services anyway. The net is the same, the services are provided by taxing the productive capacity of the people. The Bush Compassion Tax is a little more deceptive. You work harder but earn less. It sounds goody-goody and touchy-feely (just like the democrats are accused of), but it doesn't pay the bills. Still, the work needs to be done - doesn't it?

The Truth: So who do you believe? Clinton will deceive you about his sex life while he pardons criminals. Bush will deceive you by mis-stating the facts and by obscuring clear thinking using generalizations and demogogy to take you to a pre-emptive war on terrorism in Iraq when the war on terrorism was supposed to be against those who struck at the twin towers. You know it didn't take Jim Woolsly more than one day after the 911 attack to get on the channels and blame Iraq. Why was that? What did he know that the Administration did not know and still has yet to find out? The truth is that informed consent is clouded with words that hide real agendas that can't be disclosed lest the people discover the true intent.

The Basic Problem: You and me - we are the problem. We do not demand an open government. Too many behind the closed door sessions with secret energy documents and the like. We do not demand that our political representatives speak in plain language terms with verifiable facts. We do not demand that our elected officials really have experiences similar to ours. Instead we believe it when they say "I feel your pain". We permit the word "Is" and "Terrorism" and many others to become terribly distorted and blankets for hidden agendas. We do not accept the responsibilty to create our own futures. We look to our institutions to save us. The problem is that you and me have never learned what it means to be free and independent; we have accepted government (public and private) as our leader (and they tell us everyday that they are our leaders and that you need them to lead.) Can't you hear it - "thank you for your leadership" - that is said when the politicians are talking to themselves so that we can hear that they are our leaders! They were at one time our representatives. We must require that our public institutions serve us as long as we are willing to take the responsibility to preserve our liberty, create our own prosperity and remain strong, moral and productive.

In the context of a free and civil society at work
to all according to their needs
and to each according to His Will . . . pipus willabi

104 posted on 08/24/2003 11:13:50 AM PDT by MtnMover
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Someone at Voice of America needs to go back to school and get some remedial education. 49 percent doesn't constitute a majority, it's a plurality.
105 posted on 08/24/2003 11:18:31 AM PDT by jpl
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Wonder what it would take for either:

(a) Bush to do an LBJ and decide not to seek a second term

or

(b) somebody to try and challenge Bush (a la Buchanan) from within the republican party during the primaries

or

(c) somebody to decide to run to Bush's right as an independent during the general election.


I don't really see any of these actually happening. Nobody's got the money or standing to challenge Bush in the primaries. Besides they are just around the corner.

The way McCain talked today, though, I can almost see him running on a "let's win this war" platform" in the general election, running to Bush's right on the war, in effect, but to his left on taxes and the like. This would only happen, I think, if Bush refused to follow McCain's advice on the war (McCain thinks 10's of thousands more Us troops need to be sent to Iraq NOWO and, as a consequence the war looked messier and messier.

I could also see Wesley Clary deciding to run as an independent, but not to the right. More likely, though, that Clark will be some RATs (Dean?) VP.

Anyway, like I said I think unless all hell breaks out in the next few months, there is no chance that Bush will do an LBJ and little chance that he will be challenged from within the party.

But if all hell does break out. I think all bets might be off -- especially if it looked like Bush might take the party down with him. Loyality counts less than results in politics and I could see lots of quiet pressure for Bush to step aside.

Am I being crazy?
112 posted on 08/24/2003 2:04:04 PM PDT by rightbanker
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A big thumbs down to Newsweek.

Not that I've purchased a copy of the leftist rag in 15 years.
114 posted on 08/24/2003 4:07:29 PM PDT by LaraCroft ('Bout time)
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Folks, my name is Zogby Pollster. I am standing here at the California Democrat Headquarters here on Hershey Packer Street in downtown San Francisco. I want to ask each of you working here a question. "You don't want Bush re-elected, do you?"

123 posted on 08/24/2003 8:32:36 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism: A failure every time it is tried!)
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They probably polled 80% socialists and 20% Pubbies.
128 posted on 08/25/2003 4:35:08 AM PDT by auggy (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
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NOW the Hildabeast will announce her candidacy. And Wesley Clark will be her running mate. This is now almost a given.
137 posted on 08/26/2003 6:37:07 AM PDT by ought-six
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