MLK Rally marked by Bush, Ashcroft bashing & absence of US flags; Speaker Praises Mugabe

Personal Observations on C-SPAN ^ | August 23, 2003 | nwrep

[lentulusgracchus]

MLK asked for equality, and nothing more, through Peace.

On paper, and publicly. But the whole politics of the Civil Rights Movement was to summon the federal government to put down Mr. Charlie with central-government power -- a Marxist dream. The jury's still out on whether it was really about rights, or just about the back of the bus. Over the last 20 years, I've begun to incline toward the latter, with the emergence of preferences and "affirmative action". Key quotes: Benjamin Hooks's "Never, ever, ever let the white man off the hook", and Kweisi Mfume's "No apologies" (meaning: do what's best for "us", go ahead and step on other people, and no apologies).

I'm not so sure that, offered the possibility of "affirmative action", King wouldn't have gone for it. His rhetoric was at odds with preferences -- but he was a liberal, after all. Would you want to bet the farm on your proposition?

The good news in all this is that the NAACP and the SCLC, which were among the more confrontational civil-rights groups (right after SNCC and its child, the Black Panther Party), don't represent anything like the full spectrum of opinion in the black community.

He did NOT ask for welfare or elitist status. He wanted people to be judged by their character, not their income, their vote, or color, or quotas.

He kept saying that, but how do you really know? He kept slapping women around in motel rooms, too.

You can't infer strict equalitarianism from his politics, which was all about stirring up Northern liberals and getting them to send federal marshals and federal troops into the South to knock down white Southerners politically on the Civil Rights Movement's behalf. Which was very congruent with the agenda of Northern liberals whose vast welfare-state programs and "principles" were consistently obstructed by Southern "moss-backs". The whole purpose of the Civil Rights Movement, from the Northern point of view, was to get those anti-socialists out of office.

JMHO.

[chuckles]

MLK got his dream, I believe from most Americans. The problem is we DO judge people by the content of their character and discriminate accordingly. If you are a crack head with 8 children and no wife who doesn't pay his bills, I probably would discriminate against you. If you have dread locks and have a rap sheet as long as my arm and you listen to rap music @90db in your lowered purple metalflaked Pontiac, you probably still don't have a chance at the board of directors slot at Citi Group. On the other hand Allan Keys, Walter Williams, Condi Rice, Colin Powell,Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, et al, have done pretty well inspite of the Democrats trying to keep them on the plantation.

You don't even have to be conservative to make it. Oprah is as rich as anybody any color. Bill Cosby, Mikey Jordan, and a few others have done alright. It's a shame but some more liberal names can't stay off the demon weed and keep their pants zipped or in the case of O.J., keep from cutting throats. They shall be judged by their character however.

It always facinated me when Jesse Jackson was fretting over the different prison terms for cocaine and crack, I would scream at the TV,"Don't do either one, don't get anybody pregnant, stay in school, try not to shoot AK's from your car, and you too could be Justice Thomas!" It was just so logical to me that if you didn't want a crack sentence, DON'T DO CRACK!

Chances are good today that if you are down and out, you probably don't have any content in your character, black or white.

[GmbyMan]

It always facinated me when Jesse Jackson was fretting over the different prison terms for cocaine and crack, I would scream at the TV

Side point. Does anyone remeber the uproar during the late 1980's and early 1990's that the CIA and Presidents Reagan and Bush (41) were responsible for bringing crak cocaine into the inner cities? The authorities answered by cracking down on crack and putting crack dealers and users in jail at a higher rate. This, as much as anything, helped to spur the drop in crime that occured in most inner cities during the late 1990's. It probably helped save the lives of around 500,000-1,000,000 young blacks. Yet here we are in 2003 with a "black leader" telling people that the crack down on crack is racist!?!? AM I LIVING IN A BIZARRO WORLD????

[lentulusgracchus]

Does anyone remeber the uproar during the late 1980's and early 1990's that the CIA and Presidents Reagan and Bush (41) were responsible for bringing crak cocaine into the inner cities?

I saw your comment, but I'm not going to take the bait.

Bizarro, yes -- to think two presidents would conspire to import crack. That was a vile canard run out by the San Diego paper and duly exposed as false. I believe the paper printed a retraction.

[Samurai_Jack]

This rally brings to mind something PT Barnum once said...

[witnesstothefall]

The Left is like Yugoslavia. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, it's gone to pieces, hateful little pieces.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

They wanted to offend America and all they did was reveal another layer of their anti-Americanism. It's so convenient and people have been so nicely conditioned to think they're protesting racism when in fact they're just malcontents with a socialist agenda.

There was no shortage of American flags when Elian was in the middle of a tug of war between freedom and slavery. The Congressional Black Caucus was on Castro's side back then too but the people of Miami wanted his freedom.

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Elian is back in the clutches of communism.

Former Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega (R), Cuban boy Elian Gonzales and Reverend Lucius Walker of the U.S. sit together during a political rally at the former Moncada military barracks in Santiago de Cuba, July 26, 2003. Today is the 50th anniversary of the assault on the military compound led by Fidel Castro that launched the revolution. REUTERS/Claudia Daut

[Northern Yankee]

I agree with you assessment.

As a teacher I have shown that speech to my students, and have always been proud that it was an inclusive speech. Everyone is welcome to the table.

After watching this circus on C-Span this morning I am sickened at the partisan attacks that took place. Speaker after speaker lashed out at the Bush Administration, calling them the evil ones.

Unfortunately they don't see the progress that has been made in 40 years.

A profound event that could have been uplifting was turned into a terrible sadness.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Apparently in an effort to establish his credentials as even more radical than the previous speakers, he heaped lavish praise on Robert Mugabe for "reclaiming African lands from the colonialists", never mind the fact that this despicable tyrant has turned a once prosperous country into an ecological disaster by the systematic starvation of this people, while forcefully stealing farms from white farmers who had owned them for generations. In the twisted mind of this speaker, Mugabe was an example worth emulating across the continent.

Mugabe's family and political cronies took the lion's share of land and LEASED small plots to other blacks that support his ruling party but the net result for blacks is starvation and displacement from the farms where they lived and worke and ate and were educated.

[friendly]

MLK would spit on these vermin.

[veronica]

Why does an Arab woman in a headscarf think she has the right to tell Americans that we have "a long way to go in our struggle for freedoms"? Why did the NAACP invite so many Arabs to speak at this rally? Why were there so many Palestinians at this rally? Why was someone from the more moderate civil rights groups (such as the Congress for Racial Equality) not invited to speak?

The new anti-Semitism

[freeperfromnj]

MLK would spit on these vermin.

You're right. MLK was a Christian. There were mostly black muslims attending that rally. Nothing but wall to wall coverage on this sham rally and virtually no coverage of the supporters who rallied down at the Alabama courthouse yesterday.

[friendly]

This is a collection of racist cockroachs, deceitful leftist media, and vile sycophant politicians, all of whom are totally opposed to MLK's message.

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

It is people like this who are tearing down America and NO,they are NOT my fellow Americans!

[nwrep]

This was a pathetic, shameful rally.

Had you considered Freeping this?

[Quix]

FOR SURE, VERY SADLY.

[Democratshavenobrains]

Jesse and Al are just mad that MLK's doctor title was legitimately earned.

[OldFriend]

Losers all. That's why they participate in such hate fests.

[OXENinFLA]

Thanks for the analysis.

I be sure to watch and try not to blow a fuse.


The "buckets" came out again. LOL
Par for a Jesse speech.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

[The most stunning aspect of this rally was the almost complete, seemingly choreographed absence of the Old Glory throughout the vast crowd, ]

The full flower of the modern Left's turpitude and depravity.