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LBJ was behind JFK's assassination, upcoming book contends
Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | Aug. 20, 2003 | HYE JEONG

Posted on 08/20/2003 6:18:44 PM PDT by new cruelty

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To: breakem
or the lunchroom for that matter.
141 posted on 08/20/2003 9:55:43 PM PDT by breakem
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To: breakem
I have no idea.

My interest primarily concerns the shooting, and that's only because thousands of say-so'ers insist that it can't be done so they can craft a theory around some other element of the case.

I haven't got a copy of the Warren Report, and only have the book 'Best Evidence' by the lefty lawyer Mark Lane.

142 posted on 08/20/2003 9:59:10 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: BluH2o
I'm usually ready to believe the worst when it comes to democ"rat"s ... but this was in the era of "old" democrats ... when they still had a modicum of honor. The pre-Clinton era ...

Hate to disillusion you, but what "honor" did the Kennedys have? JFK was having an affair with Marilyn Monroe, as was his brother Robert Kennedy. And that's only one affair among many for JFK (I don't know as much about RFK). And the father, Joe Kennedy, was having an affair with Gloria Swanson. So many sordid stories, so little time.

Who was the person who came up with the "Camelot" reference to JFK? That was sheer marketing genius, as it has followed him around for decades, even to this day. You can't read an article about the Kennedys without coming across the "Camelot" reference. It puts the Kennedys in the realm of legend. Sheer brilliance, much as I despise it.

143 posted on 08/20/2003 10:02:21 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: The KG9 Kid
Keep on. Didn't mean to send it off on a tangent.
144 posted on 08/20/2003 10:03:42 PM PDT by breakem
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To: The KG9 Kid
'Best Evidence' by the lefty lawyer Mark Lane

David Lifton wrote Best Evidence.

145 posted on 08/20/2003 10:03:55 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
The fragment of skull retrieved [Harper fragment] was occipital.

The medical experts immediately following the assassination said the bone fragment was occipital or they believed the hit came from the front. Were they all lying or mistaken? They would have to be in order for it to have been committed by Oswald only.

146 posted on 08/20/2003 10:04:06 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: PhilDragoo
Okay, that other lefty lawyer David Lifton.
147 posted on 08/20/2003 10:04:17 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: All
Anyone have a counter to the point in 140?
148 posted on 08/20/2003 10:04:52 PM PDT by breakem
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To: The KG9 Kid
... assuming Lifton's a lawyer.

... and a lefty.

149 posted on 08/20/2003 10:05:28 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: breakem
I do believe Oswald was involved because of his behavior the day prior to the assassination. Leaving his wedding ring and almost all his money on the dresser with Marina was an act of somebody who expected his life was to be in danger. Nobody will convince me he was entirely innocent.

I also don't believe he acted alone. At some level, at least, you have to believe in Mafia involvement. Who pulled Ruby's chain to get him to kill Oswald? More than likely, it was the Mob.

Where Johnson, the Warren Commission and the federal government get involved is in the cover-up. Johnson said near his death he believed Castro was to blame and hinted he needed to shove it under the rug to prevent World War III. It could be a lie but it might have also been the truth. There's no doubt, however, that the government did cover this up as only they can.

What we will probably never know is where the seed of the assassination germanated. Did somebody in the government approach the mob? Did Castro approach the mob? Did Russia urge Castro? Did the CIA urge Johnson? Did the CIA urge the Mob and then lie to Johnson so he would cover it up? Nobody can really say and practically anyone who could is now dead.

Personally, I believe Oswald was a pawn who knew what he was being told to do but his handlers knew better than to trust this one man to do the killing. I think there were other shooters who got off the fatal head shot. Oswald panicked and ran. Perhaps he had no choice.

Some argue that, by altering the motorcade route was proof the government had already put in the fix. Maybe so. But some of it, I think, was the innocence of the time. Like 9-11, people only realized after the fact that such a deed was even possible. The planners were able to get away with a lot of things simply because nobody realized how exposed to danger the President truly was. So a lot of sloppiness happens because nobody would take seriously that a president would be shot from a distance in an American city. All the previous assassins worked from up close.

I'm not ready to believe Johnson was guilty of anything more than the cover-up. However, I could be persuaded if somebody wants to put together an iron-clad case. Whoever does has got to be able to tie Johnson back to the only two people we are certain were involved - Oswald and Ruby. Anything less is just speculation.

150 posted on 08/20/2003 10:05:44 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (http://righteverytime1.blogspot.com - home to Tall_Texan's latest column.)
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To: Interesting Times
I do not know about pictures.

The theory is better than others.

I live in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania where Arlen Specter is a US Senator.He of the "single bullet theory".

He also apparently likes Scottish Law.

I see the Kennedy kill as a tragic accident.

Nothing more.

151 posted on 08/20/2003 10:07:05 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Tall_Texan
Too many theories abound and too many groups with a motive. I was 16 at the time and before I die I believe there will be other revelations. However,ech new revelation will be absorbed in the muck of the numerous theories and "real stories." We will never know for certainty.
152 posted on 08/20/2003 10:08:22 PM PDT by breakem
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To: Paleo Conservative
He would be increadibly safe till 12:00 pm. EST January 20, 2007. If you want to understand the significance of that time and date, reread the 25th amendment to the US Constitution.

A decade of Hellary is one scary thought

153 posted on 08/20/2003 10:08:24 PM PDT by Mo1 (I still hate Liberal Democrats)
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To: anncoulteriscool
Not so funny. David Ferrie was for real and had military connections to Oswald. There are numerous books that describe Ferrie's actions around the time of the assassination and his untimely death.
154 posted on 08/20/2003 10:08:46 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
I was living in Texas at the time,I had heard that LBJ was a big crook that had been elected by the votes of dead men in Duval County. The townies,I only knew and talked to about ten or twelve of them,thought LBJ was behind it.

The day it happened I had taken my husband to the base,he was on a cross country,got home and was watching "As The World Turns"when it was announced the President's motorcade had been fired on. There were intermittant announcements that they were taking him to Parkland,that he had been hit and that there were three men running from the grassy knoll.Lots of confusion but the three men seen running away from the grassy knoll was repeated pretty often.

I heard it so often that I was tottally shocked when I learned the next day that the shots had been fired from the Book Repository.Do you know whether the grassy knoll was on the left or right of the motorcade,your comment rings true but I never thought about the where the grassy knoll was relative to the motorcade.

The Warren Report seemed such a fabrication and I have never had much trust in government since then.

I also heard way back then that Kennedy had ordered the government to print greenbacks and that there were many money men who were dead set against that. Johnson cancelled that almost immediately. Many years later I read that Lincoln had also asked the government to print and issue greenbacks and was assassinated shortly thereafter.

Well,I do get carried away but would appreciate you or anyone who might read this telling me WHERE WAS THE GRASSY KNOLL RELATIVE TO THE MOTORCADE?

155 posted on 08/20/2003 10:09:18 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: breakem
I remember hearing somone said Oswald was drinking a coke in the lunchroom at the time of the shooting but then no more was said about it, that I remember.
156 posted on 08/20/2003 10:10:31 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
I believe he was seen on the second floor, in the luch room, but it was not at the time of. However, it was very soon after. I'm sure someone here will come along with the details.
157 posted on 08/20/2003 10:13:43 PM PDT by breakem
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To: Richard Kimball
Gerald Ford was the CIA's link on the Warren Commission. Don't let those Saturday Night Live sketches fool you.
158 posted on 08/20/2003 10:14:59 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: Paleo Conservative; doug from upland
Regaurdless of whether LBJ was or was not involved in the asassination of JFK or had the lack of morals to do so, I definitely agree that Hillary Clinton has the moral depravity to do such a think if she were elected Vice President. I agree with doug from upland; any DemocRAT presidential nominee would be a fool to choose Hillary as his running mate. He would be increadibly safe till 12:00 pm. EST January 20, 2007. If you want to understand the significance of that time and date, reread the 25th amendment to the US Constitution.

You refer to the limit on the office of the president in the 22d Amendment:

Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other preson was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

Hillary the Smoocher of Suha the Blood Libeler and Wife of Arafat the Terrorist is capable of any act no matter how vile.

Dereliction of Duty, Lt. Col. James Patterson, USAF, (Ret.) was the military assistant to the president charged with the nuclear "football" for two years.

He reports Hillary kept a file box with her at all times which was deemed of such importance that every one of the five military aides was responsible for seeing to it that it remained secure at all times.

It is of note that Vince Foster, Ron Brown and Jim McDougal to name three are in no position to further threaten Hillary's ambitions.

159 posted on 08/20/2003 10:15:05 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo; The KG9 Kid; Everybody
Gerald Ford claimed the rear shot was in the neck, but the FBI measured the holes in the suitcoat at 5-3/8" from the collar and in the shirt at 5-3/4" from the collar, making a throat exit wound impossible--just as the Parkland staff said.
133 -phil-


Exactly. The magic bullet would have had to angle slightly upward from Kennedys back to exit his throat, then go down and to the right to hit Connelly, and emerge nearly pristine at Parkland leaving more fragments in Connelly's body than were missing from the slug.

Magic indeed.
160 posted on 08/20/2003 10:17:04 PM PDT by tpaine ( I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but politics keep getting in me way. ArnieRino for Governator!)
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