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LBJ was behind JFK's assassination, upcoming book contends
Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | Aug. 20, 2003 | HYE JEONG

Posted on 08/20/2003 6:18:44 PM PDT by new cruelty

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To: new cruelty
FWIW, I remember Jack Anderson pushing a book about 5 years ago on Art Bell.

Since the Kennedys' were running Murder, Inc., Castro got fed up being a target, and made arrangements with the mafia (whom
he had booted out along with most of the brothels and casinos ...) to do it.

The it was a breakeven-win since RFJ was going after the them anyway, and the Kennedys dissed the beloved Frank Sinatra.

101 posted on 08/20/2003 8:29:13 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Look at the movie frame by frame. It's on the net somewhere. There is no visible damage to the rear of his right ear. All the visible damage is at the front.

Kennedy was shot from the rear just as the movie indicates, just as a person can duplicate it with melons and just as the autopsy of the bones of the skull indicate. The entrance hole was still intact and measured with the crater effect. The inside of the entrance hole had a larger diameter area missing.
102 posted on 08/20/2003 8:36:23 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat.)
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To: new cruelty; aimhigh; boris; marktwain; mombonn; Inspectorette; Fledermaus; aristeides; ...
The Texas Connection, Craig I. Zirbel, Warner, 1991. The author concludes Johnson had the most to gain from the assassination (cui bono), and had demonstrated the character consistent with an act of such exceptional nature.

Zirbel points to Johnson's real exposure to jail-time in the Bobby Baker and Billy Sol Estes scandals, and to Johnson's knowledge and rage that he was to be dropped from Kennedy's ticket for the 1964 race.

Zirbel and others have indicated a similar predicament for Hoover. Kennedy had also made it clear he would not renew the traditional waiver enabling Hoover to serve as Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation despite his advanced age.

It is a matter of record Kennedy had fired Allen Dulles as Director of Central Intelligence, as well as Deputy Director of CIA Gen. Charles Cabell, whose brother Earle was mayor of Dallas.

Ruby or Rubenstein was sent from Chicago to Dallas in 1947, had connections with organized crime figures including Hoffa, Marcello, Giancana, Lansky, Rosselli.

Rosselli was involved with the CIA's attempts to assassinate Castro, had bragged that Ruby was "one of our boys" and had been sent to silence Oswald. Rosselli was found in a floating drum, garrotted, stabbed and dismembered in July 1976.

Hoover would provide the Warren Commission with its evidence; Dulles was one of seven Commission members.

Kennedy's National Security Action Memorandum No. 263 of October 11, 1963, was supplanted by Johnson's NSAM No. 273 of November 26, 1963: Kennedy's withdrawal of U.S. military advisors was to have been 1,000 per month, with all 15,000 removed by 1965. Johnson ended that the first business day after Kennedy's funeral.

The Mannlicher-Carcano could not be test fired until technicians made corrections to the scope mount and the action of the bolt.

But Johnson's legacy has a staunch defender in Doris Kerns Goodwin.

Author Zirbel on page 90 indicates Johnson had a "sexual encounter" with Dr. Kerns, which is corroborated in Victor Lasky, It Didn't Start With Watergate, Dial Press, 1977, page 203, and via email from Lasky's book agent at the time Lucianne Goldberg.

Miracles do happen, and Commission Exhibit 399 is the pristine bullet which caused seven wounds in Kennedy and Connally, including two through bone. Such ballistic paranormality has not been duplicated, Arlen Specter and Gerald Posner to the contrary notwithstanding.

103 posted on 08/20/2003 8:39:59 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: new cruelty
The allegation of CIA involvement was spotted and encouraged by the KGB, I have read.
104 posted on 08/20/2003 8:41:13 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: BluH2o
LBJ was not involved in any way shape or form in Kennedy's assassination ... this is pure bunk!

Oh really, what is the basis for your gratuitous allegation?

I had just turned 21 in November 1963, and I remember reading an article in one of the Pittsburgh papers on Nov 22 or 23 that stated that JFK had decided to dump LBJ as VP for the '64 election. It was just a tiny item on the inside pages.

I've always believed LBJ was behind the murder of JFK.

105 posted on 08/20/2003 8:41:43 PM PDT by StopGlobalWhining (Los ilegales dicen que "Con Cruz, Venceramos!")
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To: tscislaw
"The Texas Connection" by Craig I. Zirbel

Here's the Amazon.com link with reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0963144901/qid=1061437391/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/102-2730900-3791310?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
106 posted on 08/20/2003 8:45:07 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (http://righteverytime1.blogspot.com - home to Tall_Texan's latest column.)
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To: evolved_rage
I have always put forward the argument of WHO gained from ths assassination?? The JOHNSON'S were the ONLy ones to gain.
107 posted on 08/20/2003 8:52:33 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: PhilDragoo
"Miracles do happen, and Commission Exhibit 399 is the pristine bullet which caused seven wounds in Kennedy and Connally, including two through bone. Such ballistic paranormality has not been duplicated, Arlen Specter and Gerald Posner to the contrary notwithstanding.

I'll tell you what. Take a couple of canned hams still in the can to duplicate the bones. I know, there are four sides not two, but I'm doubling your chances. Take those two canned hams and hold them in front of you. Have someone take a military rifle and shoot those canned hams.

If you're right, you should still be alive to tell me I was wrong.

108 posted on 08/20/2003 8:53:49 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat.)
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To: The KG9 Kid
A friend of mine was a medal winning Marine markman.
He got a Carcano, found a hillside, set up stationary targets and tried to duplicate the Kennedy shots.
He could not, and no one will ever convince him that Oswald acted alone.

In addidtion, when Kennedy was shot there were several trees along the route, which the FBI had cut down "in order to provide a clearer picture of the crime scene"!
109 posted on 08/20/2003 8:54:11 PM PDT by Richard-SIA (Nuke the U.N!)
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To: Servant of the Nine
This is preposterous. LBJ was ruthless enough to do whatever he thought best, but he wasn't stupid enough to point at himself by doing it in Texas.

Or stupid enough to hire Lee Harvey Oswald to do the job.

Anyone who ever viewed Oswald's mother on television needed no conspiracy theory to explain the assasination.

110 posted on 08/20/2003 8:54:39 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: Servant of the Nine
Actually, doing it in Texas ASSURED LBJ that he would not be fingered.......AND he could Cotrol the situation.
111 posted on 08/20/2003 8:55:27 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: BluH2o
The ONLY way you would Know that LBJ wasn't behind the assassination is if YOU did it.....otherwise it's entirely plausible. LBJ STUFFED the ballot box no. (?) to ILLEGALY get elcted to the Senate. He was SCUM.
112 posted on 08/20/2003 8:58:07 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Richard-SIA
A friend of mine was a medal winning Marine markman.
He got a Carcano, found a hillside, set up stationary targets and tried to duplicate the Kennedy shots.
He could not, and no one will ever convince him that Oswald acted alone.
-Rich-



He probably didn't use the right combination of melons & canned hams as targets.
113 posted on 08/20/2003 8:59:16 PM PDT by tpaine ( I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but politics keep getting in me way. ArnieRino for Governator!)
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To: Taft in '52
And the Tooth Fairy will be in your bedroom any moment now.
114 posted on 08/20/2003 8:59:48 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: boris
My mother has always believed that LBJ was the one. I've always thought it was old Joe Kennedy's "friends" in the mob, sending a message to Bobby Kennedy to back off on his efforts to shut them down.
115 posted on 08/20/2003 9:01:22 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC (Dolphins, Eskimos, who cares? It's all a bunch of tree-huggin' hippie crap!)
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To: new cruelty
I thought everybody knew that?

Try to find the Original, Uncut footage of the Johnsons arrival in Texas after the assasination.
I watched it live, when the door opened and LBJ & Ladybird started down the steps Ladybird was grinning like a cat that just swallowed the Canary, LBJ elbowed her in the ribs to drop the smile.
Later broadcast begin only after Ladybird dropped the smile.

Also look into the flight LBJ was on when Kennedy was shot, LBJ redirected it to Texas before any word of the assasination was known on board.
He knew, and wanted to get to the scene ASAP.
116 posted on 08/20/2003 9:01:47 PM PDT by Richard-SIA (Nuke the U.N!)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Look at the movie frame by frame. It's on the net somewhere.

I did put up the Zappruder film, post #80 if you want to take a look at it.

Doing some quick research on this, it's been a while but according to witnesses Kennedy's occipital bone was shattered, which is in the back of the head. That's been disputed and now it's claimed it was the parietal bone, indicating a back hit.

There's also some dispute that there may have been two brain examinations, the second one that confirms what you're saying about the small entrance hole in the back. Here's the link to that which contains the following quote about the first examination:

"Horne contends that the damage to the second brain reflected a shot from behind. He says the first brain was Kennedy's and reflected a shot from the front."

So there's conflicting versions of events from supposedly credible sources. But the witnesses who claimed the occipital bone was shattered like Dr. Harper and Dr. Cairns said that from the very beginnning, and those are the ones I tend to believe.

117 posted on 08/20/2003 9:04:33 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Protagoras
"Yep, it's both. He might have pulled one trigger, but he sure didn't blow Kennedy's head of from the front, which any blind man can see if they watch the film."

Anyone who has ever fired a gun knows Kennedy was killed by a shot from the front and right.
118 posted on 08/20/2003 9:05:46 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: lizma
Never forget that Web Hubbel said he was put in the Justice Dept to find out who killed JFK and to look into UFO's. I SAW him say it on CSpan....he was DEAD serious!! Even that Idiot Clinton didn't believe what was put out.
119 posted on 08/20/2003 9:07:11 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: new cruelty
I have heard this from several people. Evidently anyone getting in LBJ's way seemed to have something happen to them.. Sort of like Arkanside of the 50's and 60's.
120 posted on 08/20/2003 9:09:46 PM PDT by Texas Mom
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