Posted on 08/20/2003 6:51:20 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
Now cearly you are not paying attention. If a company has a physical presence in that zone it can opt into participation. there is NO compulsion to participate in the no income tax program just because one's cvompany is in the zone. If you wanst to open an import business physically located within this zone fine do it You might be able to get some tax break for the value of storing and transshipping but no one is pforcing you in or out. I hesitate to use this analogy but no one forces a person to claim a tax deduction they are entitled to either the decision to claim a legitimate tax deduction is entirely up to the filer.
Likewise if you are entitled to a refund no one forces you to keep that money or even cash the check.
You want it fine by me you don;t want it likewise fine.
FDR had it a lot worse in under 35 years. It's a matter of passing a law, there is no quantative method of determing 'how long' that will take. ,P> No but gibven the current political reality and the likelyhood of a turbnover in 2004 One may make a reasonable estimate as to what teh chances are of your progarm passing before teh November election. What are the chances of enough grass roots support to get your program even considered by the powers cuurnetly in DC. I doubt 2006 will be mucjh better. I have tried to craft a program that will garner enough grass rots support so it has a least a chance in a billion of being recognized by the peopel in power in DC. Maybe the chance is one in a trillion for actual passage but I submit that by getting it out there as a positive program with some slightly more specific palns it does have mayvbe some chance. I submit a simplistic thing like you are saying is more akin to having aeveryone yeell out their window "I'M mad as helll I'm not goingf to take it anymore." maybe my proposal is as far out I do not knwo but I submit it is a positiev start. If businesses do not choose to be in the zone Avoid your silly attempt to foist more regulations on business under the guise of helping them and vote for politicians who will reduce taxes. Period. No strings attached, no hoops to jump throughI have been doing that for thirty years and I submit taxes are higher now. One definition of insanity is expecting different results form the same action. It is necessary to mobilize and try and get peopel aboard a program to reduce the over regulation.
You're right. This scheme of creating new regulations and creating bureaucracies to oversee and administer them (or are you just going to bloat the IRS to ensure that companies are indeed complying with your new regulation?) has a much greater chance of passing than simply a tax cut. This bill has two co-sponsors. How many voting members of Congress have signed onto your plan again?
OPEC is another example of the U.S. coddling these syphlitic perverts in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE and the other Emirates. Who are they to deem we pay $30 a barrel for a resource that would still be buried under their camel comfort brothels if we hadn't shown them how to get it from the ground. We're spending $3 billion a day in Iraq to secure those bisexual rapists, we don't even buy but 15% of their stuff ... yet $30 a barrel is somehow conjured as the market price.
Screw that. Let's go to Mexico, Venezuela and Canada, and tell them their oil is now $20 a barrel, take it or leave it. Who are they going to sell to besides us? Do the Canadians and Mexicans have elaborate pipelines, terminals and deep water ports to export their oil to New Zealand, Belarus, Laos, Uruguay and Burkina Faso? We get 4 million barrels a day from Canada, Mexico and Venezuela, they need us more than we need them. Do they think the Cameroonans or Uzbekistanis are going to send a tanker to Vancouver or Acapulco to take up the slack if we don't buy their oil?
There's no real market, trading relationships are very inflexible and the whole system is set up to screw the Americans and the Japanese. We use 19 million barrels a day of this stuff, we make 9 mill and import 10 mill. These clowns should be bidding for OUR business.
I believe that, they had $800 million, out of $4.1 million, revenue in "Parts & Accessories" and "General Merchandise" in 2002. They grossed $262 million on those sales, I'll bet the merch and accessories were like you say the biggest profit component of it. That stuff goes at 50% margin easy. The bike business is barely profitable if in the black at all, I'd wager, but man they print money in the financing unit. $104 million net income on $211 million Revenue. There's some folks financing these bikes with bad credit histories, I'm guessing. Big loans, big vigorish to get the bad boy hog.
No doubt. I rode that magic carpet once ... it is THE way to go if you're going on a cross country ride. That machine doesn't growl, it doesn't roar ... it kind of hums in the key of D minor. The stereo system on my pals Honda was better than the one I had my living room. That is the bike to own, I've never had an inkling for a Harley.
I have just been jolted to one of the strangest things I'd ever seen: last summer I went to Whiskey Junction, a Blues Joint in Mpls. that is a watering hole for the area Harley community. At 1 am bar time, my pals went homebound direct route, and I hustled down Cedar Avenue to grab a taxi. I passed a bar that was home to dozens of U of M Frat/Dorm boys, all of whom rode scooters. So it's 1:05, here's 30-40 Harley Hogs growling down Cedar alongside 30-40 scooters. Mondo weird ... these 48 year old burly tatooed 240 lb tough guys sitting at a light looking at a pasty drunk 20 year 160 lb suburban kid on a scooter right beside him. And up and down the street, the Sportsters were roaring like lions and these scooters sounded like a hive of bees. There were 30-40 of each, it was nonstop along that mile long stretch.
It was like watching one of those Discovery Channel shows where a little male spider or frog is mounting the humongous female ... it doesn't seem right, they're only vaguely species related, but you can't take your eyes off the scene.
You may not be worried about it but because they have practiced it repeatedly does not mean the Government of the United States of America should notice their actions and take effective measures to stop the direct government interference in our economy especially when that government has had numerous official spokespeople talk about these actions as a form of asymetric warfare.
There's no real market, trading relationships are very inflexible and the whole system is set up to screw the Americans and the Japanese. We use 19 million barrels a day of this stuff, we make 9 mill and import 10 mill. These clowns should be bidding for OUR business
While I might disagree on the Canadian and Mexican points I have no need to focus on that and I have no disagreemnet in principle with your reprise of Saudi History albeit with a little hyperbole but that is your specialty. :^)
Now I also agree with this last point and thus I loathe to have unilateral disarmament in a trade war the USA is engaged in (Come on I get to engage in a little posible hyprebole myself.) If China's dominance of certain market areas is so clear why do they need 70% tariffs (average? I agree we are mostly talking trinkets and as to their big assed rockets that was technology transferred under the Clinton administration which agreed to a whole set ogf agreements with China on providsing for government sunsidies of investment in China in exchange for technology transfer
Yep.
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