Jerry Duncan wished he had a "dirty bomb" to kill every liberal in Fresno

Fresno Bee ^ | August 15, 2003 | Pablo Lopez and Matt Leedy

[Saundra Duffy]

In order to oppose them one must be squeaky clean at all times.

That leaves all of us out in the cold. Those who THINK they're "squeaky clean" are guilty of the sin of lying, deceiving and being FULL OF CRAP!

[Saundra Duffy]

Isn't it true, that 99.9% of the time, it is the Demon Cats making the threats?

Yes, that's true.

[Saundra Duffy]

May we have a comment from our leader, Jim, who lives in Fresno? I didn't know there were so many libs in Fresno.

LOL! We are surrounded by liberals, strangely enough. Conservative Republicans continue to suffer from a constant barrage of "Bee" stings. I don't know what can be done about it except to vent now and then.

[Saundra Duffy]

Bump

[Traffic_Can]

CAn you make one that does Libs only?

[Saundra Duffy]

CAn you make one that does Libs only?

I wish. Oh, wait, have I just committed some kind of hate speech crime. Oh, no!

[Traffic_Can]

Oh Sandra, you got some 'splainin' to do.

[Traffic_Can]

Sandra=Saundra. Opps!

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Venting is stupid, and a complete wwaste of time and energy.

The guy didn't say "I'm sick of liberals", "liberals are brain damaged whiners", "I'm going to make it my mission to drive every liberal out of elective office" or anything else along those lines.

He specifically talked about using dirty bombs to kill them all. Do you realize the depth of disorder of a mind that would even come up with that imagery, even for a vent? Do you realize how stupid it would be to verbalize that thought even in a roomful of supposed friends?

It wasn't funny, and it wasn't an excusable rant. People like that tarnish their party, they tarnish their families, they even tarnish their associates by making juvenile threats.

[Saundra Duffy]

You are one of the few people who spelled my name correctly and/or who ever bothered to correct the error. Yahoo!

[Saundra Duffy]

He specifically talked about using dirty bombs to kill them all.

He did nothing of the sort. For God's sake - where would Jerry Duncan get a dirty bomb even if he wanted to which he doesn't? Give me a break.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

He said it - and is stuck with it. He stuck a lot of other Republicans with that, too.

It isn't funny, and if irresponsible venting is the hallmark of the "true conservatives" of the California GOP, then no wonder you lose time after time.

You may have the right of free speech to say any stupid thing you want, but that doesn't mean that everybody else has to forgive you for it.

[Saundra Duffy]

I'm wondering who cares whether or not YOU forgive Jerry Duncan. I can't think of anyone.

[habs4ever]

Get thee to a nuthouse...

Can you ever stop defending dorks and boobs who bring their troubles upon themselves without screaming "set-up by the Fresno Bee" ? You rail about the nasty tone of valley politics, yet your shrillness and vituperative posts can only add to the volatile mix.

You are part of the problem, and Lord help anyone who has to deal with you in the political arena.

[Saundra Duffy]

I TOLD YOU SO!! Here's today's Fresno "Bee sting" account of what happened. PLEASE READ CAREFULLY THE LAST PARAGRAPH: "Such twice-deleted e-mails, however, WERE NOT AMONG THOSE SUPPLIED TO THE BEE . . ." In other words, Brad Castillo and his cohorts on the Council were able to thoroughly delete their emails BEFORE the Bee snooped. Here's the article from today's Fresno Bee:

Official provided e-mails to panel
Castillo's move called 'public service' by group's leader.
By Pablo Lopez and John Ellis
The Fresno Bee
(Published Tuesday, August 19, 2003, 5:26 AM)

Fresno City Council Member Brad Castillo said he provided to the Human Relations Commission council e-mails that set off the storm of calls for fellow Council Member Jerry Duncan to resign.
Among the hundreds of e-mails are several that ignited controversy, including one in which Duncan writes: "If I had one dirty bomb ... I could eliminate all the liberals in Fresno at once."

The e-mail was written during a City Council discussion of the Human Relations Commission's budget for the current fiscal year. Many HRC supporters are politically liberal and were present in the council chambers that day.

On July 8, The Bee requested e-mails sent and received by City Council members on nine different days during the summer's budget hearings.

When The Bee received the e-mails on Aug. 6, the City Attorney's Office also sent copies to each of the seven council members. Castillo in turn handed copies to the Human Relations Commission, dropping them by the house of HRC Chairwoman Debbie Reyes.

After reading the e-mails, Reyes said she called police to make a report against Duncan. Police Capt. Sharon Shaffer later told Reyes to take her complaint to the District Attorney's Office.

Reyes said she turned over the e-mails to the FBI and the District Attorney's Office. A supervisor in the Fresno office of the FBI said last week that he was prevented from commenting by bureau policy; the District Attorney's Office did not respond to a request for comment. Castillo did a "public service" by providing the e-mails to the commission, Reyes said.

Besides Duncan, Ann Kloose, chief assistant to City Council Member Brian Calhoun, has come under fire for an e-mail that says police should "Cap" members of the Human Relations Commission if they became unruly.

Asked if he felt Castillo was trying to embarrass him politically by supplying the e-mails to the HRC, Duncan simply said he wished the incident would go away so he could concentrate on city issues. Once allies, Duncan and Castillo have since become the council's two most bitter rivals.

"I know how I feel," Duncan said, "but honestly I am so tired of it I just want to go on."

That is unlikely.

At today's Fresno City Council meeting, members of the city's progressive and African-American communities will show up to continue to protest the e-mails. Last week, the HRC held a news conference critical of Duncan, Calhoun and Kloose.

A statement put together by a coalition of progressive groups that will be submitted to the City Council today will call for both Duncan and Kloose to resign.

"The comments made while in open session reflect poorly on their character and demonstrate their lack of commitment to fairly weigh the concerns of their constituents. ... Had students of Fresno Unified School District or any city or county employee made the same comments, we feel they would face dismissal under policies that are currently in place."

The e-mails requested by The Bee were those sent and received by council members over several days of budget hearings. They included e-mails deleted and sitting in the "trash bin," the first stop on a computer for deleted e-mails.

E-mails can be further deleted from the trash bin, which removes them from viewing on a computer. They still remain in the system. Such twice-deleted e-mails, however, were not among those supplied to The Bee, according to City Attorney Hilda Cantu Montoy.

The reporters can be reached at plopez@fresnobee.com, jellis@fresnobee.com or 441-6330.

[Saundra Duffy]

Please check your FReepMail box if you have the balls. Thanks.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

So what? He said it - there is no denying it.

If you're going to vent, vent responsibly.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Another bit of knee jerk, vituperative "free speech" on your part? Like I said, you have the right of free speech - but so do we. The rest of us don't have to approve of what you say, and may well call you down for it.

[Scenic Sounds]

I TOLD YOU SO!! . . . In other words, Brad Castillo and his cohorts on the Council were able to thoroughly delete their emails BEFORE the Bee snooped.

Who knows what might be in those other, deleted (no, twice deleted) emails? It looks like you were right all along, Saundra! That neighborhood of yours is a political jungle! ;-)

[Saundra Duffy]

Such twice-deleted e-mails, however, were not among those supplied to The Bee, according to City Attorney Hilda Cantu Montoy.

Like I said, another "Bee Sting" operation. Why are you defending the liberal Fresno Bee? Why are you defending the liberal democrat establishment? WHY?!!!