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Ancient Superflood Brought Climate Chaos
ABC Science News ^
| 8-15-2003
| Bob Beale
Posted on 08/15/2003 8:08:56 AM PDT by blam
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To: plusones
Your novel deals with rapid climate change doesn't it?
Do you have a link to that FR thread on it?
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posted on
08/15/2003 6:48:27 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: blam
Bump for later.
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posted on
08/15/2003 6:50:16 PM PDT
by
StriperSniper
(Make South Korea an island)
Comment #63 Removed by Moderator
To: blam
Here is a worldwide map of the oceans with the water level reduced by about 300 feet. Hey, that's pretty cool. Good thing I've got a high-speed connection, as it's a 3.5MB file. : )
I'd imagine that were the levels reduced another 200 feet, it'd be a very different map indeed.
Snidely
To: plusones
No problemo. Rapid climate shift is finally reaching mass awareness, making your novel's plot very timely.
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posted on
08/15/2003 8:29:29 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Snidely Whiplash
"I'd imagine that were the levels reduced another 200 feet, it'd be a very different map indeed." Yup. Even at about 300 feet reduction, I like to play with the idea of the waters cascading over and into the Mediterranean at Gibralter, up to and then cascading over the next barrier until it finally reached the Black Sea and caused Noah's Flood.(?) There would have been refugees and rumors of flood all over the Mediterranean area for years. Noah would have know about the flood well before it started raining.
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posted on
08/15/2003 8:33:49 PM PDT
by
blam
To: Bill Davis FR
Yes. Hancock's book, Underworld, explains that the Persian Gulf was above sea level 12,500 years ago and over a six thousand year period was flooded in stages. A very enlightening book. Explains how many cultures world-wide have similiar flood myths, probably describing the same sea flooding events.
To: blam
I think this flood is about 800 years too early. How long would the resulting rise in sea levels take to make it from the Arctic into the Mediterranean? What is the tolerance of either analysis?
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posted on
08/15/2003 11:01:34 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by politics.)
To: RightWhale; blam
There is evidence of three such floods, one about twice the size of the others. I don't have the dates and numbers for the serial sea-level rises handy, but the rises each took perhaps two weeks and raised sea levels instantly 100 to 200 feet worldwide. This is a chart of coral reef die-offs due to changes in Pacific Coast sealevel.
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posted on
08/15/2003 11:09:00 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by politics.)
To: freedomcrusader
Ancient superflood brought climate chaos: women and minorities hardest hit. Memebers of the Rubble and Flintstone Clans taken in for questioning.
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posted on
08/16/2003 6:19:48 AM PDT
by
uglybiker
(I think I drink more beer than anything. Ever try to drink a case of Cokes?)
To: Carry_Okie
"How long would the resulting rise in sea levels take to make it from the Arctic into the Mediterranean? What is the tolerance of either analysis?" Don't know the answer to either question.
My scenerio has many bodies of water isolated by 'barriers' that formed during low water level periods during the Ice Age and then breaking through, with still undefined dates, as the water rose from the Ice Age.
Look at the map in post #51. These 'break-throughs' would include areas such as the Red Sea (Exodus?), Persian Gulf, Mediterranean(in stages), Gulf Of Mexico and the Black Sea(Noah's Flood?)....and many other areas un-named here.
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posted on
08/16/2003 8:51:35 AM PDT
by
blam
To: Carry_Okie
"How long would the resulting rise in sea levels take to make it from the Arctic into the Mediterranean? What is the tolerance of either analysis?" Don't know the answer to either question.
My scenerio has many bodies of water isolated by 'barriers' that formed during low water level periods during the Ice Age and then breaking through, with still undefined dates, as the water rose from the Ice Age.
Look at the map in post #51. These 'break-throughs' would include areas such as the Red Sea (Exodus?), Persian Gulf, Mediterranean(in stages), Gulf Of Mexico and the Black Sea(Noah's Flood?)....and many other areas un-named here. The 'break-through's' could also have been caused by other natural events such as earthquakes, volcanos, asteriod impacts and etc. (at random dates)
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posted on
08/16/2003 8:54:50 AM PDT
by
blam
To: Carry_Okie
How long would the resulting rise in sea levels take to make it from the Arctic into the Mediterranean? A monster wave would make the distance in a few hours. Water itself, even if it flows at a leasurely 100 miles per hour would take only a couple days.
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posted on
08/16/2003 9:41:00 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
To: RightWhale; blam
Wave energy is a very different thing than a mass flow. Put a bobber out in the ocean and watch the waves run under it. Currents move at a rate of a few miles per hour. A cold fresh water layer might move slower than that, particularly under an ice sheet as it would have to do under Hudson Bay.
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posted on
08/16/2003 9:52:22 AM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by politics.)
To: blam
Ancient Superflood Brought Climate ChaosNo it didn't.
It was Dubya.
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posted on
08/16/2003 9:54:58 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
To: blam
Ancient Superflood Brought Climate ChaosNo it didn't.
It was Dubya.
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posted on
08/16/2003 9:55:07 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
To: Carry_Okie
Wave energy is a very different thing than a mass flow You asked how long it would take sea level to move from the Arctic to the Mediterranean. The wave a few hours, the mass of water a couple days.
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posted on
08/16/2003 9:58:41 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
To: RightWhale
A change in sea level requires mass transport, not just a transmission of peak energy.
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posted on
08/16/2003 10:03:49 AM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by politics.)
To: Bill Davis FR
was this great flood of Noah's time...I think you are right.
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posted on
08/16/2003 10:10:13 AM PDT
by
Mark17
To: Carry_Okie
We're not communicating. I said a couple days.
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posted on
08/16/2003 10:13:06 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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