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Officer cleared of wrongdoing
www.wndu.com ^ | 8.14.03 | Reporter Mark

Posted on 08/14/2003 10:53:54 AM PDT by freepatriot32

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To: Graybeard58
I doan be thu idjut. I be thinkin: why the San Fran cops be less kurrupt than Williw Brown? I doan see no reason. What you got for a reason?
41 posted on 08/14/2003 2:02:56 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: eno_
"I doan be thu idjut. I be thinkin: why the San Fran cops be less kurrupt than Williw Brown? I doan see no reason. What you got for a reason"?

I won't attempt to prove a negative (That most cops are NOT corrupt) and for you to throw out assertations that because of SOME corruption that neccessarily it follows that MOST are corrupt, is just as the other poster stated - moronic.
44 posted on 08/14/2003 2:13:30 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: eno_
OK, here's your proof, following your reasoning, All the cops I saw on 9/11 in NYC were heroic, it follows (by your logic) That ALL cops are heroic.
45 posted on 08/14/2003 2:17:22 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: ianincali
There was lots of evidence of looting at the World Trade Center. Including stacks of clothing in a fire truck.

Of course, that could all be a misunderstanding: "Fire officials have theorized the merchandize was blown into the truck by the force of the towers' collapse." (And how about that M16 that miraculously jumped out of a police car's trunk today? Do you believe the official story on that, too?)

Uh huh.

Evidence of corruption is everywhere, including in the implausible statement by "fire officials," and it showed up even at an event that was also full of heroism.

How bad does corruption have to be for looting to happen while the towers came down and the looters colleagues were dying? How bad does corruption have to be that the first impulse is always to deny and cover up?
47 posted on 08/14/2003 2:34:21 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: ianincali
No...following his logic, MOST cops would be heroic.


Hey! He started making nonsensical leaps first. I'm simply playing the game by his rules. If he can leap from SOME to MOST, why can't I leap from MOST to ALL?
48 posted on 08/14/2003 2:41:08 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: ianincali
I'm out of this discussion because I am finding it harder and harder to be dispassionate.
My son is a policeman and an army reservist, his reserve unit was just activated and he is going to Ft. Lewis, Washington on 18 Aug. he will be there for three weeks and from there will go to Iraq for a year or more.
I know I am not being objective but he is the most honest kid (28 years old) I have ever met. He doesn't have a corrupt bone in his body. He is my hero and I am supremely proud of him.
Those among you who are believers in prayer, please remember my son Steve and pray for his safe return.

50 posted on 08/14/2003 3:01:52 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: ianincali
As another poster pointed out, most big city governments are shot through with corruption, in the schools, in the parks department, in the rubbish collection, in tax assesment, in liquor and vending licensing, etc. Objectively, you would have to be very optimistic to think police escape corruption in that environment, and there are many reasons to think police would have to be more corrupted in order to enable the rest of municipal government corruption in big cities.

Small towns are another matter. I live in a very quiet small town. The most exciting thing in the police blotter is often a mailbox vandalism. Sometimes there is nothing but "police were called to assist in an arrest in a neighboring town." Small town cops can, and often do, complete exemplary careers.
51 posted on 08/14/2003 5:04:24 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: ianincali
The only place I've felt police brutality is on my wallet.

We probably spend about $40B on police (not counting federal LEOs) each year.

If most of that spending is in big cities, and most of it is going to corrupt cops, it is one of the largest areas of public spending that could be reformed.

Want to cut your property tax bill in half? Support home schooling and police reform. Everything else in municipal budgets is, in relative terms, small potatoes.

Effective, non-corrupt PDs would also yield huge benefits in making cities liveable, especially for the poor.
52 posted on 08/14/2003 6:01:09 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: eno_
LOL....yea right!
53 posted on 08/15/2003 9:05:25 AM PDT by Arpege92
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To: babygene
Ah, I see....all cops are guilty criminals before they could even get a trial in your eyes! You sir, remind me of Castro!
54 posted on 08/15/2003 9:08:17 AM PDT by Arpege92
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To: Graybeard58
I will say prayers for your son Steve! I am happy to report that like you, I am also proud of the policeman in my life. We've been married twelve years now and there isn't a corrupt bone in his body!

BTW....I have found that people who hate and condemn cops, only do this because they were turned down when applying to become a cop. Not all cop haters mind you, but some! :-}
55 posted on 08/15/2003 9:18:11 AM PDT by Arpege92
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To: eno_
Might as well. What's the robbery solution rate in your town?

They catch more than half.

56 posted on 08/15/2003 10:07:17 AM PDT by Ensonicus
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To: Arpege92
"Ah, I see....all cops are guilty criminals before they could even get a trial in your eyes! You sir, remind me of Castro!"

Don't take it so personal... And what does CASTRO have to do with it?

The opinion I stated was that the law inforcment profession, was the most corupt of all professions... Perhaps what I followed with, that all cops were crooked was a bit of a generalization, after all my brother-in=-law carries a badge, and I dont think he's crooked.





57 posted on 08/15/2003 10:14:10 AM PDT by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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To: Graybeard58
Unfortunately that's what happens at FR these days, any time something comes up about a cop allegedly doing something wrong the cophating whackos come out.

It's perfectly reasonable to hold a bad cop accountable on an individual basis. But the endictment of the entire profession is just ugly baseless slander, and reflects far more on those who make the comments than those at whom they are directed.

In fact if experience is a reasonable basis as these whackos claim. It is MY experience that most who hate cops are criminals and n'ere do wells. Its not surprising that evil hates good, and masquarades as a victim, sometimes even here.

Your son sounds like the kind of person who makes this country a better place. You should be proud and pay no heed to the agenda-filled foaming malcontents and mini-Sharptons here that have never done anything worthwhile and are a waste of the air they breathe.
58 posted on 08/15/2003 10:23:01 AM PDT by Ensonicus
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To: babygene
The opinion I stated was that the law inforcment profession, was the most corupt of all professions...

Might we inquire into your profession? Drugdealer? Ganbanger? Burglar?

59 posted on 08/15/2003 10:27:00 AM PDT by Ensonicus
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To: eno_
We probably spend about $40B on police (not counting federal LEOs) each year.

I consider that money well spent. Escpecially in contrast the money I pay for your mother's foodtsamps so she can sell them to buy crack.

60 posted on 08/15/2003 10:33:55 AM PDT by Cubs Fan
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