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U.S. Constitution Translated for Kids (Dumbing down youth?)
http://npr.org ^ | 8-14-03 | OXENinFLA

Posted on 08/14/2003 5:49:31 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

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To: Kenton
Be interesting to see how they explain the Second Amendment.

And the "selective" choice of words for defining the term "militia". We all know the "original" definition and the "progressive" one offered by the liberals are in striking oppisition to one another.

41 posted on 08/14/2003 11:00:37 AM PDT by YoungKentuckyConservative
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To: Graybeard58
I grew up thinking that only the commies taught revisionist history...Was I ever wrong!

No, you were quite correct. The only change I'd suggest would be to strike the word only.

While other groups may revise history as well, you've properly identified this particular group.

42 posted on 08/14/2003 11:18:23 AM PDT by Bob
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To: robertpaulsen
"You feel the same about child molesters and rapists? That once they serve their time, no special restrictions should apply?"

Indeed. I have no problem with the risk presented by rapists and child molesters after they have been properly sentenced. (If you catch my drift.)

If you think that prohibiting recidivists will do any good, you are dreaming. Truly reformed criminals deserve the right to defend themselves. Moreover, with the rampant move toward criminalizing so many societally harmless violations, it is a matter of time before most free people will be denied the right to bear arms.

Should a past embezzler (prostitute, pot grower, car thief) be forever denied the right to protect his family, and to defend against tyranny?
43 posted on 08/14/2003 1:58:36 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: VeniVidiVici
VeniVidiVici said: ...my son, an avid shooter, asked, "Does the 2d Amendment mean that the 'Right to Keep and Bear Arms' is a state right or an individual right?"

It's very important that freedom-loving people prepare their children for that day when their teachers will attempt to misrepresent important Constitutional issues.

My youngest daughter was well prepared when her high school teacher attempted to tell the class that the Second Amendment only protects the state's right to arm their militia. My daughter carried the day with the class because she had the facts and she prevented that class from being infected by liberalism that day and with respect to that issue.

Perhaps we can get to a situation where every classroom will have at least one student ready to speak up. It will slow down the indoctrination if the teachers hesitate to touch some subjects because they will be effectively challenged.

44 posted on 08/14/2003 2:16:30 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: OXENinFLA
Literacy is DOWN since my childhood. This is a national shame.

Illiterate people are the helpless prey of scoundrels, conmen, politicians and lawyers.

If we can't teach them anything else can we at least teach them to read and understand the language?

Pretty please?

45 posted on 08/14/2003 4:29:53 PM PDT by LibKill (The sacred word, TANSTAAFL.)
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To: Beelzebubba
"Should a past embezzler (prostitute, pot grower, car thief) be forever denied the right to protect his family, and to defend against tyranny?"

If a felon cared for his family he wouldn't have committed a crime which put him in prison. Who took care of his family, who "protected" his family, when he was locked up?

As far as expecting a felon who has shown no respect for the rule of law to defend against a tyrannical government flouting the rule of law ... well, let's just say I'm not counting on it.

The law says a felon loses the right to possess a firearm and the right to vote. By your statement, I would guess losing the RKBA to be the greater evil?

46 posted on 08/15/2003 6:40:54 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: OXENinFLA
The Constitution of the United States is a long document with legalistic lawyerspeak that confuses many adults

Nobody who had ever seen REAL legalese would describe the Constitution that way.

47 posted on 08/15/2003 6:51:45 AM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: OXENinFLA
''Translation:

Anyone accused of a federal crime will not be required to pay bail that is out of proportion to the crime. Fines (money) charged to punish criminals must be reasonable, and any other punishment must not be cruel or unusual.'

So, if it is NOT a federal crime, then excessive bail and cruel punishment is ok?
48 posted on 08/15/2003 6:56:15 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
"So, if it is NOT a federal crime, then excessive bail and cruel punishment is ok?

"The Eighth Amendment's "Cruel and Unusual Punishment" clause is applicable to the states through the Fourteenth Amendment. (Louisiana ex rel. Francis v. Resweber, 329 U.S. 459 (1947)).

The Supreme Court has not yet determined whether the "excessive bail" provision of the Eighth Amendment is applicable to the states through the Fourteenth amendment. However, because the provision seems logically intertwined with the other provisions of the Eighth Amendment, it may already have been impliedly made applicable to the states."

We aim to please. The above from faculty.lls.edu.

49 posted on 08/15/2003 7:08:18 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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