Orthodox Jewish Dealer Is Said to Aid Scheme on Terrorist Funds

The New York Times ^ | August 14, 2003 | MICHAEL SLACKMAN

[adam_az]

Not unheard of, but definately unusual.

Kind of like the shock of finding out about the Amish coke fiends. Whodathunk?

[fella]

Is not it amazeing what people will do for a little bit of money. Just look at any prostitute like a politician who will give away bilions of dollars of tax payers and consumers money just to get a few thousad for their next election campagian.

[berserker]

In an artist's rendering, 76-year-old Yehuda Abraham, right, makes a court appearance in front of Magistrate Andrew Peck, left, Wednesday, Aug. 13, 2003 in federal court in New York. Abraham is charged with conspiring to operate an unlicensed money transmitting business in conncection with a plot to smuggle shoulder-fired missiles into the United States, according to authorities. (AP Photo/Christine Cornell)

[Tom Jefferson]

Read post #56

[Beth Yiroel]

Before the war on iraq many people said that the war was a jewish plot. Somehow when the coalition won, everybody forgot that it was a jewish idea!

[dennisw]

Thanks. My take is the same as yours. You know the biz so fleshed it a bit. Also factor in that he (Jewish diamond merchant) was part of the Muslim Halawa money transfer system. I know you don't absolutely have to Muslim to be in it. I think some Hindus also participate.

[dennisw]

Yep that looks like him. Unlicensed money transmitting business is unlawful and he will get nailed for that.

[doosee]

My guess is this guy had no actual knowledge that the money would be used for munitions of any kind. However, what he was doing was illegal and I dont care if he is 26 or 76, he should get the maximum penalty. If a few more idiots like him worried more about the security of our nation rather than bagging a few bucks, we would all be a lot safer. I compare this guy to the flight school trainers who trained Muslims who commented that they didnt need to learn how to land. It was all about pocketing money. Not one thought about protecting the people of this nation.

[Tom Jefferson]

Dennis,

The Halawa or hundi money transfer wasn't started by Muslims and isn't strictly a Muslim activity. It was started by Indians and other South Asians, and was taken up by Chinese, Africans as well as Arabs. There is interesting information on it on the Interpol site. I think one of the earlier posts has the URL.

Regards,

Tom

[sheik yerbouty]

The underground Islamic finance system.

[mr.pink]

Sorry, but unlike yourself, I'm not at a point where I'm ready to support some racist dentist and his cohorts extracting their brand of justice on Americans.

Their funding comes primarily from saudi arabia, just like the 9-11 terrorists.

That raises a very good point, and of course and obligtory question as well: Where extactly did the racist dentist and his gang get the funds to amass their arsenal?...and when did their connections to actually acquire the weapons come from?

I know my local gun shop doesn't stock claymore mines or rockets.

[mr.pink]

Kind of like the shock of finding out about the Amish coke fiends. Whodathunk?

Yeah, that is a weird one, but so's the number of Yeshiva students running Ectsasy from Holland.

Do you consider drug runners/dealers the equivalent of those plotting mass murder? Some folks do, I don't.

[adam_az]

No but there's no evidence so far, at least publicly released (who knows what the feds have up their sleeves) that this fellow knew what the money was for, only that he apparently violated cutrrency transaction laws and some other similar offenses. I only used the Amish Coke Fiends as a whodathunkit example, not an example of similar seriousness.

[tubavil]

Where extactly did the racist dentist and his gang get the funds to amass their arsenal?...and when did their connections to actually acquire the weapons come from?

It is not racist to want to kill those who are killing your fellow Countrymen and religionists. It is normal.

Regarding the illegal stuff, if you've read any articles you know what he had was described as being homemade or kitchen-counter. Books on how to make and maintain C4, napalm, grenades, and rockets are available at your local gun show or on the internet. I didn't see any article claim he had military gear.

That said, military gear is easy to come by. Ever live near a large US military base? Look in slimy surplus shops or make some contacts in the dive military bars. Somebody is always down on their luck, jammed up, or just wants fast cash.

'Connections' are easily acquired too, remember when Soldier of Fortune magazine used to advertise hit men in their classifieds?

There is nothing larger behind this episode, certainly not what you intimate.

[tubavil]

Regarding funding...what he had didn't require any real amount of money. As I mentioned before most of it was homegrown plus he was a dentist, it was easily afforded.

[mr.pink]

No but there's no evidence so far, at least publicly released (who knows what the feds have up their sleeves)

(who knows what the feds have up their sleeves)?...maybe stopping a terrorist ring and saving American lives?

[adam_az]

I'm talking about evidence for the legal case.

Your constant word-twisting and purposeful misunderstanding is both tiring and uninteresting.

Stop acting like a Marxist.

[mr.pink]

Stop acting like a Marxist.

Marxist?....Straight out of FR 101: always call the other guy a Marxist first... ya-a-a-a-a-awn.

How's `bout you stop acting like the scumbag's defense attorney?....and while you're at it also stop smearing the Amish, unless of course you're prepared to bring evidence of any terrorist participation by them into the discussion.

[adam_az]

No, twisting words, their meaning, and their context is a Marxist trait, which you have exhibited.

Lie and misrepresent when caught, a Marxist trait.

Yawn.

I'm NOT acting like his defense attorney, I'm pointing out to you that very little of the evidence has been publicly released so far, and the little that has are the equivalent of MONEY LAUNDERING charges.

I didn't mention anything about Amish and terrorism, you did.

I brought that case up as an example that incongrous things can happen occasionally, such as Amish Coke dealers or Orthodox Jews who associate with Islamic Terrorists. Ironically, it makes your point - that he very well might be guilty. I brought it up in the context of pointing out why people would be shocked at his participation, as this is not quite an every day occurance. It's very unusual, and therefore worthy of a modicum of skepticism. However, like the good little crypto-Marxist pseudo-deconstructionist you are, you have taken EVERYTHING I've written out of context.

On that note, buzz of, Mr. Red.