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IRS vs. KUGLIN (IRS Loses in Memphis: Is Income Tax History?)
Sierra Times ^ | August 10, 2003 | Carl Worden

Posted on 08/11/2003 7:12:43 AM PDT by ninenot

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To: ninenot
This is why they have "tax courts" to try IRS cases.
21 posted on 08/11/2003 7:32:58 AM PDT by wjcsux
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To: mattdono
Jury verdicts do NOT set precedents.

Court rulings do - since the Judge did not RULE in this case, there is no precedent.
22 posted on 08/11/2003 7:34:02 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: ninenot
A big Yeeehaaa to ya, ms. kuglin
23 posted on 08/11/2003 7:35:45 AM PDT by Johnbalaya
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To: wjcsux
I'm of the opinion that the first step in changing the system is to return tax cases to regular court - with all the normal rules of evidence.
24 posted on 08/11/2003 7:36:18 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: StolarStorm
"Guess this 'lady' thinks she is better than the rest of us..."

I very much doubt that.

"who have to pay her share."

Her point is that you don't have to pay it either.

"Hope she doesn't drive on the roads that she didn't help to pay for. "

Income taxes are pooled with other taxes and distributed for various purposes. She is undoubtedly paying other taxes, which do, in part, pay for roads.

"Pure lunacy."

Pure, wonderful rebellion.
25 posted on 08/11/2003 7:36:33 AM PDT by Tauzero (This was not the sand-people, this was the work of Imperial Storm Troopers: only they are so precise)
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To: ninenot
Bump for later.
26 posted on 08/11/2003 7:36:40 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: ninenot
Good for Vernice..............I think. Are we now going to have to have a special session of Congress to pass a retro active tax package? God help us!
27 posted on 08/11/2003 7:37:21 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: wjcsux
Ah, but you are entitled to a jury trial in cases over $10000, I think.
28 posted on 08/11/2003 7:37:26 AM PDT by Tauzero (This was not the sand-people, this was the work of Imperial Storm Troopers: only they are so precise)
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To: StolarStorm
she doesn't drive on the roads that she didn't help to pay for.

Lunacy describes those who don't understand that the tax on fuel is what pays for road's. The rats alway's us this line.

29 posted on 08/11/2003 7:37:32 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: ninenot
I imagine this came from the definition of the two words "income" and "wages". Somehow over the years, these two words have been redefined to mean the same thing. In reality, wages are a means of exchanging hours of labor for goods. Income is the difference a business has between revenue and expenses. The later supposedly is taxable while the first case is not.
30 posted on 08/11/2003 7:37:53 AM PDT by tang-soo
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To: StolarStorm
Roads are by and large fudned using taxes from gasoline sales.

If she buys gas or pays someone to drive her who buys gas then she's paying for the roads.

More likely that she's tired of seeing her tax dollars sent overseas and used to support illegal aliens here in the U.S.
31 posted on 08/11/2003 7:38:20 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: ninenot
BTTT
32 posted on 08/11/2003 7:38:59 AM PDT by StriperSniper (Make South Korea an island)
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To: StolarStorm
Guess this 'lady' thinks she is better than the rest of us... who have to pay her share.

If you 'voluntarily' decide to pay 'your share' then so be it. But this lady (and every other American) is under no obligation to follow that which can not be proven to be legally binding upon them. To suggest otherwise is to not understand the meaning of freedom.

33 posted on 08/11/2003 7:41:38 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: mattdono
Apperantly, Ms. Kuglin is a prominent member of the Libertarian party.

Here is an excerpt from a report on the 2000 LP convention ...

At the party's convention, which ends here today, Tennessee delegate Vernie Kuglin says she may have caught her libertarian spirit growing up in Nigeria as the child of missionary parents. "I think I developed a libertarian attitude in my soul from the Africans there, who lived very free," she says. "They didn't have much government intrusion in their lives at that time."

It wasn't until 1992, however, that she first heard of the Libertarian Party - which since its beginnings in 1971 has campaigned for a radical reduction in the role of the government in the lives of American citizens.

"The logic of it made sense to me," says Ms. Kuglin. "I liked the idea of responsibility, of individual choice."

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34 posted on 08/11/2003 7:42:54 AM PDT by mattdono
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To: Bikers4Bush
Thanks. I wasn't aware that the fuel taxes paid for interstates. I always thought that only state and local roads were. My mistake.

One thing though, I'm a fan of the US military. If a tax rebellion occured we'd have to kiss our defense goodbye. This is all well and good on a theoretical standpoint, but scary as hell in reality.... unless you are looking forward to anarchy.

35 posted on 08/11/2003 7:42:54 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: asformeandformyhouse
Good luck living in the relative freedom that we have here if everyone decides not to pay their income taxes. The chinese would love to show us their brand of 'freedom' after they roll through our non-existant military.
36 posted on 08/11/2003 7:44:59 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: StolarStorm
oh get off your high horse. I am CERTAIN that the FEDEX pilot spent HER money much more wisely than the goobermint would have (wasted) spent it.....
37 posted on 08/11/2003 7:45:00 AM PDT by Capt.YankeeMike (get outta my pocket, outta my car, and outta the schools)
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To: StolarStorm
Hope she doesn't drive on the roads that she didn't help to pay for. Pure lunacy.

It has always been my understanding that the gasoline tax and auto registration fees cover the largest part of road expenses. Except for Interstate Highways, the local and state govt's handle most road projects and repairs. The Federal Income Tax feeds a bloated bureaucracy and massive entitlement programs. How, in a system where many pay NOTHING, can you say anyone is paying their FAIR SHARE? As long as the gov't confiscates my money to pay someone else to sit on their lazy butt; nothing is fair.

38 posted on 08/11/2003 7:46:23 AM PDT by Extremist
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To: Tauzero; taxcontrol
I believe we all should pay SOME taxes. I am sick and tired of paying for deadbeats, illegals, and the U.N., among other things.
39 posted on 08/11/2003 7:46:43 AM PDT by wjcsux
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To: Capt.YankeeMike
Think she bought any cruise missiles or bullets for our troops? Doubt it. I'm sure that she thought that her HDTV and 5000 sq ft house was better expenditure (for her). Selfish people.
40 posted on 08/11/2003 7:47:40 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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