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IRS vs. KUGLIN (IRS Loses in Memphis: Is Income Tax History?)
Sierra Times ^ | August 10, 2003 | Carl Worden

Posted on 08/11/2003 7:12:43 AM PDT by ninenot

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To: wjcsux
I believe we all should pay SOME taxes. I am sick and tired of paying for deadbeats, illegals, and the U.N., among other things.

But the less in taxes we pay means the less goes for "deadbeats, illegals, and the U.N."

One sure way of drying up the honey hole is to stop putting honey into it.

141 posted on 08/12/2003 1:14:48 PM PDT by A2J
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To: webstersII
The internet has finally leveled the playing field and for all those who have studied diligently the irs code book and the associated regulations, like Ms. Kuglin and her attorneys undoubtedly have, they have uncovered the truth.

Ms. Kuglin's case shows the collecting of "income taxes" from most Americans is the fraud of all frauds!!!!


If you like, try www.theft-by-deception.com if you want a truthful, clear, easy-to-follow, legal and colorful video presentation of how irs crooked lawyers have twisted the law and hidden the truth of the matter. And I've got nothing to to gain at all by recommending this other than a bunch more citizens can gain some important insight into this issue.

Actually, the irs "income tax" code book and associated regulations as written are completely VALID and CONSTITUTIONAL!

So you might be saying, "what's your beef here then?"

Forget all the tax protester theories you may have heard about "wages are not income", the 16th Amendment wasn't ratified correctly, issues about being a member of a "sovereign state", that stuff's WAY off the mark!

(read on if you want the big secret revealed!)

IMO, the "system" has grown to become as corrupt as a clinton $3 bill! And that's a "his" or "her" $3 bill!!

In order to fool everyone, including most irs employees, the "system" devised a jungle of legalese that hides the truth. The "income tax" law still shows us the truth (with careful study), the irs and treas dept. talking heads, and many in the fed govt, including your and my representatives, have allowed the "system" to cheat us citizens, fine us citizens, send us to jail, punishes us citizens for crimes we unknowingly didn't commit!!

The irs commissioner and past commissioners should be jailed for grossly misrepresenting and misapplying the irs code which is the law!!

The simple truth of the existing irs codes has finally been uncovered and it CLEARLY and UNDOUBTEDLY shows that for U.S. citizens who live and work exclusively within the U.S., THERE AIN'T NO DAMN LAW OF ANY SORT that says we have to pay "income taxes".

HOWEVER, if you're a legal (or illegal) alien, have a job outside the U.S. (which includes U.S. territories), have a job where you earn part within the U.S. and part outside the U.S., you have to follow the irs codes, no doubt. That's how the code and it's associated regulations are written.

BUT, again, if you live and work exclusivley within the U.S., you have to do nothing as far as filing and paying.

The internet has finally leveled the playing field and for all those who have studied the law and the associated regulations diligently in the past really dozen years or so, those who believe this country need to start following the laws AS WRITTEN, and that starts with the irs itself.

It's the fraud of all frauds!!!!

I'm watching Hannity and Colmes and Greta tonight to see how they cover this milestone story.



p.s. don't ask your tax accountant or tax lawyer for the truth on this, as most simply don't know, and the very few that do may not tell you the whole story here. (Some HAVE been extremely helpful in shining the light on this national fraud, which also includes ex-irs agents). Most tax people have been making a fat living off of the ignorance of themselves and their clients!!

The theft-by-deception video would be a great "gift" for your tax adviser -- just don't trust his or her response unless they can show you the actual law about people who live and work exclusivley within the U.S.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
142 posted on 08/12/2003 2:20:38 PM PDT by dave66
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To: webstersII
you wrote:

"The real question is whether or not she has any tax liability. If the IRS can't show a law which proves that she has tax liability, then maybe she will win the final round. But I think that has been tried before, people saying that wages are not income, for example. But wages have been considered income all the way back to when the first income tax was collected, so there is alot of history and precedent here."

Read the case, bub, Ms. Kuglin didn't claim that wages are not income nor does a careful reading of the law say that "domestic income" of U.S. citizens is taxable. The law, not your untrue statement, has always said that.

The only history and precedent one can point to is the crooked irs regulation lawyers writing and, over many decades, renaming parts of the code so that the average citizen can't figure it out. On that, there's plenty of precedent and history.

Read and study www.861evidence.com if want to gain true understanding of the issue.

In essence, the law and associated regulations state that income is taxable IF AND ONLY IF you (1) live in a U.S. Possession (2) are a U.S. citizen but make your money OUTSIDE of the U.S. (3) your are a foreign alien working in the U.S. This is not a creative interpretation of the law, it is what the law has stated for over 80 years.


Treasury dept. lawyers have now moved Subchapter N, Section 861, thousands of pages away from where one would think it should be and they've renamed it "miscellaneous matters".

None of that is actually illegal, it's just grossly deceptive.

The income tax laws ARE valid and constitutional.

It is the gross misrepresentation and misapplication of the law by the feds and your elected officials that is the national fraud.
143 posted on 01/31/2004 5:27:07 AM PST by dave66
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