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Israel to replace Uzi sub-machinegun, M-16 with Tavor firearm
Haaretz ^ | 10/08/2003 | Haaretz

Posted on 08/10/2003 1:33:19 PM PDT by klpt

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To: 11B3
They could've just saved all of that development money and bought the new bullpup from FN.

Different missioin. The FN P-90 that you've posted a picture of is chambered for 5.7X28, which is a rather hot pistol round, but not up to the level of 5.56x45 which the M-16 and most other Western assault rifles use. In fact they make a pistol for it too, the FN-49 IIRC. The cocept is that it's for REMF rear echelon troops, vehicle crews and others who need something more than a pistol, but also need the use of both hands and something smaller than a full sized assault rifle, or even than the carbine version of one. Similar concept to the M-1/M-2 Carbines, althouh even more compact and "handy" (the M-1 Carbine didn't have a bayonet either, until the post war upgrades) But that 5.7 round is a much better penetrator than the .30 Carbine round. (which could be good or bad, depending on circumstances.)

21 posted on 08/10/2003 6:30:04 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Joe Brower
Need yer input here!

22 posted on 08/10/2003 6:41:05 PM PDT by Eaker (This is OUR country; let's take it back!!!!!)
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To: Eaker; *bang_list
As to how good the TAR-21 is, time will tell. Nothing shakes out a designs good and bad points like time in the field, and in Israel, these will quickly be battle tested in many ways.

I't's a shame that the Barrett "peon" version doesn't conform to the primary design -- as it currently stands, I'd rather invest in a good Marlin lever action. $;-)

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

23 posted on 08/11/2003 6:11:11 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." - Soren K.)
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To: chadwimc
""Stove pipe" is the term given to a failure to feed "jam"."

I would have said that it is a "failure to eject".

The options are failiure to feed, fire, extract, and eject.

24 posted on 08/11/2003 7:53:36 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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Israel is replacing its world-famous Uzi sub-machinegun and U.S.-supplied M-16 assault rifle with a new flagship firearm.

They're finally replacing the Uzi because it jams a lot, right? < s >

25 posted on 08/11/2003 9:00:59 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
I was thinking the same thing.

Separated at birth?

Tavor TAR-21

Steyr AUG A2

26 posted on 08/11/2003 9:07:33 AM PDT by Imal (The World According to Imal: http://imal.blogspot.com)
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