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Modesto Mom fights to rid classrooms of X-rated literature
Posted on 08/04/2003 6:57:18 AM PDT by Gopher Broke
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To: Zavien Doombringer
$400 a month for 4 students? That's a good price!
To: Tax-chick
Read any of the X-rated parts.
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posted on
08/04/2003 7:48:01 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
To: Zavien Doombringer
You can spend a lot of money homeschooling, but $4000, unless you have 10 kids, I would definately consider on the high side. I spend no more than $1200 for two children. And there are many other costs that disappear, such as lunches, transportation, or pressure to spend money on what "the other kids all have".
There are ways to cut corners in homeschooling that do not deprive the kids, and I know many people that even make their own curriculum.
To: Zavien Doombringer
You are very wrong. In the 12 years we homeschooled, I doubt we spent much more than $4,000 total. Maybe $5,000 or so. Over 12 years.
So you are wrong.
To: mtbopfuyn
I have have a few incidences in the public school arena that put my 2 youngest in private school. when my oldest was in Junior High (Middle School), there was this book they were required to read. It was about a young black boy heading for jail - I can't remember the title, the only reason I can see for it to be required reading because the Author was black. There was sexually explicit material in the second chapter,I mean it left nothing to the imagination! I called the School administration, head of curriculum and told her what the children were reading. That book was removed immediately!...
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posted on
08/04/2003 7:51:23 AM PDT
by
Zavien Doombringer
(Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
To: mtbopfuyn; Zavien Doombringer
Prices are higher if you use a curriculum that's designed for schools, such as A-Beka or Bob Jones, because their costs for printing are higher. Programs like Rod and Staff cost much less; most books are paperback.
The Seton School (www.setonhome.org, probably wouldn't be for you since it's Catholic :-) prints or reprints most of their own books, so they're not the weight or the cost of textbooks used in schools.
There are some texts available that I would love to have, but I just can't make myself pay $75 for one book, yet. Brings back nightmares of what I paid for college accounting books that were out of date when we bought them!
To: Damocles
Maybe the author of this piece chose to print the two least controversial books to make this woman seem like a reactionary. I'd love to see the entire list
Based on the source (Agapepress) which I've mostly seen on FR as the source of rabid creationist screed, the author was certainly trying to make the woman look like a hero, not a reactionary.
A bit disturbing that so many people that home-school their kids seem to blindly accept this woman's accusations without having read either of the two books (and the people on the thread who have universally seem amazed that either book could be considered X-rated.)
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posted on
08/04/2003 7:53:33 AM PDT
by
John H K
To: Tax-chick
no, that $400 for 2, my 2 oldest are in the public high school. I know the teachers there, they were mine when I went through :)
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posted on
08/04/2003 7:53:49 AM PDT
by
Zavien Doombringer
(Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
To: Gopher Broke
From another Modesto Bee article:
At a March 3 Board of Education meeting, LaChapell objected to "The House of the Spirits" by Isabel Allende, "Snow Falling on Cedars" by David Guterson and "The Color Purple" by Alice Walker.
Since then, she has added "Cold Mountain" by Charles Frazier and "The Handmaid's Tale" by Margaret Atwood to her list. She said she is adding books as complaints roll in from like-minded parents.
I have read "Snow Falling on Cedars" and "The Handmaid's Tale". "Cedars" is a beautiful book that does have as one element a love affair between two teens, but it is hardly pornographic. I put it on my 14 year olds reading list for this summer.
"The Handmaids Tale" is a deeply disturbing book about the United States after an environmental disaster has left most women sterile. The women who are healthy are rounded up and given to couples as "breeding stock". The men essentially rape the "Handmaids". There is also a stringly anti-religious theme. NOT recommended for teens, although I think a college aged kid could handle it.
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posted on
08/04/2003 7:54:33 AM PDT
by
Straight Vermonter
(...they led my people astray, saying, "Peace!" when there was no peace -- Ezekiel 13:10)
To: Zavien Doombringer
I just got off the phone with the wife, We were looking into the Becka curriculum, which Sweethaven Christian Academy uses. To enroll all of our kids would have been about $4000, I have 4, ages are 16, 14, 12 and 10. so..to those with one or fewer than I do, it will be cheaper. Take a look at HomeSat by Bob Jones University. Their curriculum is already a favorite among homeschoolers and Christian schools and now they offer instruction based upon that curriculum over satellite. It is very affordable ($100-$200 for satellite receiver equipment, $35 per month for the family, curriculum costs extra) and you get a certified teacher who teaches the subjects using all kinds of audio/video/computer tools. We have it for our kids and we like it. You can get more info at www.homesat.com.
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posted on
08/04/2003 7:55:16 AM PDT
by
Spiff
(Have you committed one random act of thoughtcrime today?)
To: savedbygrace
I am sorry, but I am not wrong...I did research, that's why I put them in a Christian schools
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posted on
08/04/2003 7:55:31 AM PDT
by
Zavien Doombringer
(Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
To: AppyPappy
Read any of the X-rated parts. No detail? Which parts of what books?
In the books mentioned in this article, I can't think of anything that couldn't be found in Time or Newsweek, not to mention People or Cosmopolitan, all of which are available to teenagers (with pictures!). I would much rather my daughter read House of the Spirits than Teen People or Cosmo Girl!
To call these novels X-rated is just weird, IMO, unless they also say that about the local newspaper and CNN.
To: Tax-chick
No detail? Which parts of what books? The books that have X-rated parts.
There, run rings around you logically.
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posted on
08/04/2003 8:02:06 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
To: John H K
I checked the source
after my post (less than intelligent), and noticed Agape Press as well. I would still like to see the entire list.
I will home school my kids and they will likely not read anything I have not read before hand, but there are those on the extremes of both sides that are causing an increasingly polarized environment for raising children.
I've always felt I was born 2 generations too late. I would have been more comfortable in my Grandparents generation than I am in my own (minus the whole racism and lack of air conditioning thing).
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posted on
08/04/2003 8:05:15 AM PDT
by
Damocles
(sword of...)
To: John H K
(Agapepress) which I've mostly seen on FR as the source of rabid creationist screedI'm even a rabid creationist :-), but I still think this is bizarre.
To: Straight Vermonter
The Handmaid's Tale is absolutely ridiculous and completely unbelievable - a leftist fever dream from beginning to end.
No Christian fundamentalist society could possibly be organized the way the book portrays or have the moral system the book describes.
The concept of a "handmaid" is wholly alien to any Christian society that has ever existed, as is the condemnation of literacy qua literacy.
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posted on
08/04/2003 8:12:49 AM PDT
by
wideawake
(God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
To: AppyPappy
"If you want to get rid of them, read the X-rated parts at school board meetings." LOL....I sent excerpts of the "White Cadillac" book my young step G daughter read from her school library to the school board, and the newspapers......
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posted on
08/04/2003 8:19:47 AM PDT
by
goodnesswins
(Dems are the racists......who else would treat black Americans the way they have?)
To: John H K
No more disturbing than any other thread where people accept things without double-checking, but to phrase it like that suits your anti-Christian biases well, doesn't it?
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posted on
08/04/2003 8:21:19 AM PDT
by
=Intervention=
(White devils for Sharpton Central Florida chapter)
To: goodnesswins
P.S....."White Cadillac" starts with a murder and rape by teens, I believe.....just such a "GREAT" book for a 14 year old girl.
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posted on
08/04/2003 8:22:02 AM PDT
by
goodnesswins
(Dems are the racists......who else would treat black Americans the way they have?)
To: Gopher Broke
LaChappell has three children in college and a fifth-grader that she is home-schooling. This woman needs to get a life. This reminds me of when I went to a meeting to hear about the sex education program at my son's junior high school. A teacher did a very good job of explaining it and most of the parents there seemed to be quite satisfied. But there were two women in the room who had many complaints. The teacher and the other parents listened politely, but eventually it became clear that these women didn't even have children in the public school.
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