The Problem with Today’s Feminism

IntellectualConservative.com ^ | August 3, 2003 | Rachel Alexander

[farmfriend]

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The failure of feminism.
08/01/03 | Francesca Venturi Bernardini

[Arpege92]

"Domestic Violence laws are not necessary since there are already well-established laws in place preventing assault and batter."

Hmmm...I have to disagree with this. When the police are called to a domestic disturbance, they will look at the parties involved in this disturbance and find out if an assault had indeed occured. If an assault is apparent, the one who caused the physical damage is automatically arrested, even if the victim refuses to press charges. This works both ways too....women have been arrested for causing physical harm as well.

[First Amendment]

I'll check out that link.
I lived in Berkely CA in the late 60's and had a room mate (who later turned out to be lesbian) who invited me to "womens' meetings" - the origin, as far as I know, of the "womens' liberation" movement. I've written about it elsewhere on FR - I was only about 18, and knew ZERO about anything. I was on a spiritual or religious search but was totally immersed in the sex, drugs and rock'n'roll zeitgeist (soon broke away from that, fortunately, due to aforementioned search).
Anyway, the feminist meetings were peopled with the angriest, most miserable, hate-filled bunch of bit**es I have ever seen in one place! Then after a meeting or two they all "came out" as lesbians, and that sex with women was a basic platform of their whole philosophy, and that men were evil. Even I realized this was crazy stuff and I never went back.
Feminism is evil, and an evil sister of the homosexual agenda. It is a branch of the evil tree of rebellion against the natural family, which is based on the natural law created by God. And this is not a sectarian understanding. It was true a million years ago, everywhere, and it will be true in one millions years, everywhere. It is reality. Men and women are different in the bodies, psychological natures, and the roles nature has us play. Feminism is a miserable attempt to disrupt, out of envy and rebellion, what God has created for our benefit.
There is almost nothing which is as destructive for natural family life and children as feminism.

[familyop]

The left lies constantly about early feminism, saying
that "women were oppressed," etc. Susan B. Anthony
threw tantrums to get support for Elizabeth Cady
Stanton's "Woman's Bible" (revision of the Holy Bible).

Here are some comments from those early feminists.

"I can never understand why intelligent girls should
want to marry fools just to get married. Many are
willing to do so. But I am not." --Susan B. Anthony

"It was wicked to allow white men absolute power over black
men. It is vastly more cruel, more wicked to give to all
men — rich and poor, white and black, native and foreign,
educated and ignorant, virtuous of monopolies. There never
was, there never can be, a monopoly so fraught with
injustice, tyranny and degradation as this monopoly of sex,
of all men over all women." [Susan B. Anthony also complained about black men getting the vote before
white women.]
--Susan B. Anthony in
"Women Want Bread, Not
the Ballot"

"No matter what the motive, love or ease, or a desire to
save from suffering the unborn innocent, the woman is
awfully guilty who commits the deed, but, oh! thrice
guilty is he who drove her to the desperation which
impelled her to the crime" (Susan B. Anthony, _The
Revolution_).

But look what feminists have brought us in numbers of
abortions.

"Abortion is to be classed, as with the killing of
newborns, as infanticide ... There must be a remedy
even for such a crying evil as this. But where shall
it be found, at least where to begin, if not in the
complete enfranchisement and elevation of women"
(Elizabeth Cady Stanton, _The Revolution_)?

Yeah, right. Then in the 1900s, Margaret Sanger,
another feminist, brought us even more pro-abortion
propaganda.

Susan B. and her friends brought us the "Tender Years
Doctrine," to automatically give custody of all small
children to the mothers in divorces. Before that, in
conservative tradition, custody went to fathers. But
feminists complained for over fifty years that fathers
used their children for labor (ref. to agricultural
upbringings).

Abortion is for feminists' ("women's," in their words)
"sexual freedom."

[familyop]

"This works both ways too....women have been arrested for causing physical harm as well."

True. But men seldom start fights to use restraining
orders to take custody of the kids as lawyers advise women
to do.

[irv]

If an assault is apparent, the one who caused the physical damage is automatically arrested, even if the victim refuses to press charges.

You're partly right, and partly wrong. In some jurisdictions, when police go on a domestic call, someone HAS to be arrested, whether there's been an assault or not. Usually, it ends up being the man. The feminist theory here is that the presence of the police will tick the man off so much that he'll beat the woman senseless the moment they're gone.

The new domestic violence laws have helped defuse a lot of very bad situations. They've also hurt a lot of men who didn't deserve it. The problem is far more complex than the anti-male activists want us to believe.

[Arpege92]

"When police go on a domestic all, someone HAS to be arrested, whether there's been an assault or not."

Wow, I wasn't aware of that. In fact, it seems a little over the board....I had always thought when police responded to a domestic call and there were no assaults by either party, then no arrests were made, but the police did encourage the parties involved to seperate if only for one night. At least until things cooled down some.

I agree with your theory about men being hurt by this law when they didn't deserve it. One point though, I have seen women being arrested for domestic assault on there husbands, boyfriends or whatever. I give these men alot of credit for not striking the women when they themselves are assaulted. :-}

[Arpege92]

I have to agree with you here. I too have seen women use this tactic before.

[Z in Oregon]

Good article. Just for the sake of acknowledging reality, it is always good to read breakdowns of the feminist War on Men.

Key line:

Feminists like abortion because it allows women to control a decision that involves both a man and a woman, and this power can be used to really hurt a man by aborting his child.

That sums up the root of society's problems right there.

[Sparta]

ping

[Orangedog]

To remain relevant in the U.S. and other democratic countries, feminists have championed odd issues, issues that are not about women’s equality, but are about getting one-up on men.

There was one (of many) good line in the movie The War of the Roses":

"Never try to out-do a woman in love or revenge."

In fact, the woman in that movie was a close to my ex wife as you can get.

[Samwise]

The goal of feminism is mediocrity.

When Gloria Steinem visited my campus in the seventies, she said that the women's movement would be successful when incompetent women have positions of authority like men do.

I will never forget those words.

[Orangedog]

This works both ways too....women have been arrested for causing physical harm as well.

And as always, there is the exception to the rule. 13 years ago I had to call the police once when my ex tried to rip out my throat. (maybe her renting "Roadhouse" at Blockbuster a week earlier should have been a sign ;) ). I had claw marks on my neck, witnesses, and she even went as far as admitting it and telling the cop that if they left me there, they would be back for me later with a body bag. The police were nice enough to tell me to leave...or they would take ME to jail.

[Orangedog]

Susan B. and her friends brought us the "Tender Years Doctrine," to automatically give custody of all small children to the mothers in divorces.

Only now it's not just the small children. During a custody fight for my daughter two years ago (after the ex's 3rd marriage that she flushed to hook up with the 4th husband) my lawyer was told by the guardian ad-litem that I shouldn't have custody becasue I stayed single and thus didn't have a women in the house and girls needed to be raised by a woman. I don't know about other states, but in mine the judges almost always rubber-stamp whatever GAL recomends.

Before that, in conservative tradition, custody went to fathers. But feminists complained for over fifty years that fathers used their children for labor (ref. to agricultural upbringings).

Now women are given judicial and procedual sanction to women using kids as a way to torment, control and extort the fathers.

[Orangedog]

One thing to always remember...the judges, the lawmakers and the committees that are appointed to draft guidelines and policy...99% of them are lawyers. They know that the more adversarial the system is, the more power they have. They are not going to operate in a manner that will reduce case load. That would reduce the number of cases, clients, money and head-count at the courts and related gocernment agencies. If keeping things as they are detroys families and screws-up kids, they can live with that.

[familyop]

"One thing to always remember...the judges, the lawmakers and the committees that are appointed to draft guidelines and policy...99% of them are lawyers. They know that the more adversarial the system is, the more power they have. They are not going to operate in a manner that will reduce case load. That would reduce the number of cases, clients, money and head-count at the courts and related gocernment agencies. If keeping things as they are detroys families and screws-up kids, they can live with that."

Yes. That's one thing we should remember for sure.
The divorce industry has grown huge bureaucracies and
that will not allow the divorce rate to go down, lest
they lose their jobs or fees. And the various Bars
vote on every divorce issue, whatever will increase
the rate. They even stooped to calling divorce law,
"family law" (doublespeak) a long time ago in typical
Gramsci-an linguistic fashion.

[Darksheare]

I've always said that feminism has done more to hurt women than any man has done.
The feminist movement gave women the 'thrill' of 'zipless' sex, and the wonders of being a tramp while screaming that they are not.
The wonders of screaming that they don't need any man, and screaming about polite gestures such as holding doors open for them. Somehow men are supposed to 'do the honorable thing' while being berated for doing so.
Feminism isn't about equality anymore, it's about control.

[Arpege92]

Did you go to the hospital to be treated for your throat wounds?

[Orangedog]

No, just cleaned them out with some alcohol. It wasn't like I needed stitches or anything....it just hurt like hell for a few days.