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Posted on 08/03/2003 1:59:22 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

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1 posted on 08/03/2003 1:59:22 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Passes U.S. Senate;
Pro-Life Forces in House Work to Defeat "Phony Ban"

WASHINGTON (April 5, 2003) – The Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act has cleared one a major hurdle. On March 13, after three days of heated debate, the U.S. Senate passed its version of the bill (S. 3), sponsored by Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), on a lopsided vote of 64-33.

However, two more major obstacles must be overcome before the bill – which the National Right to Life Committee helped to initiate in 1995 – can actually end the brutal method of killing a partially born baby.

First, the bill still faces concerted resistance from pro-abortion forces in the House of Representatives. Once that resistance is overcome and the bill is signed by President Bush, it will face immediate legal challenges in the federal courts, with its fate ultimately to be decided by the U.S. Supreme Court.

For most of a week in the Senate, opponents of the ban argued that the bill violates two U.S. Supreme Court rulings -- Roe v. Wade, the 1973 ruling that legalized abortion on demand, and Stenberg v. Carhart, a 2000 decision in which five justices held that Roe v. Wade covers even partial-birth abortions. The five-justice ruling struck down Nebraska’s ban on partial-birth abortion, and at the same time had the result of blocking enforcement of similar bans that had been enacted by more than half of the states.

Following the Senate’s approval of the ban, NRLC Legislative Director Douglas Johnson commented, "President Bush, 70 percent of the public, 64 senators, and four Supreme Court justices say there is no constitutional right to deliver most of a living baby and then puncture her head with a scissors. But five Supreme Court justices did say that partial-birth abortion is protected by Roe v. Wade, and 33 senators voted the same way. We hope that by the time this ban reaches the Supreme Court, at least five justices will be willing to reject such extremism in defense of abortion."

According to a report in the March 29 edition of Congressional Quarterly Weekly Report, three pro-abortion groups "are coordinating efforts to challenge the bill in three different federal courts." The groups are the Center for Reproductive Rights, the National Abortion Federation, and the Planned Parenthood Federation of America.

According to the report, "Lawyers from the three groups could file lawsuits challenging the measure ‘within hours’ of the law’s enactment, said Priscilla Smith, who will be the lead attorney for the Center for Reproductive Rights’ challenge."

The Senate rejected two attempts to erase S. 3 and replace it with "phony ban" alternative bills that were sponsored by pro-abortion Senators Dick Durbin (D-Il.) and Dianne Feinstein (D-Ca.).

However, the Senate did attach a non-binding amendment, offered by Senator Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), endorsing Roe v. Wade. Seventeen senators who voted for the Harkin Amendment also later voted to pass the bill.

The Harkin Amendment has no legal force, and it is expected to be dropped from the bill in the future House-Senate conference committee that will finalize the bill before President Bush signs it. (Click here to see the key roll calls on amendments to and passage of the bill.)

In a written statement following the Senate vote, President Bush said, "Partial-birth abortion is an abhorrent procedure that offends human dignity, and I commend the Senate for passing legislation to ban it. Today’s action is an important step toward building a culture of life in America."

Initial House Action

On March 25, the House Judiciary Constitution Subcommittee conducted a hearing on the House version of the bill (H.R. 760), which is sponsored by subcommittee Chairman Steve Chabot (R-Ohio).

Dr. Mark Neerhof, associate professor of obstetrics and gynecology at Northwestern University Medical School, testified that the method is "excruciatingly painful" for the baby. Simon Heller, an attorney associated with the Center for Reproductive Rights, argued that the bill violated the Supreme Court’s application of Roe v. Wade, but the measure was defended by Prof. Gerard Bradley of Notre Dame Law School.

On March 26, the full House Judiciary Committee approved H.R. 760 on a party-line vote of 19-11, with all Republicans voting in favor of the bill and all Democrats opposing it. The committee rejected numerous weakening and gutting amendments to the bill, all on party-line votes. As approved by the committee, the bill is identical to that passed by the Senate, except that it does not contain the Harkin Amendment.

No schedule has yet been announced for the full House to take up the bill. Currently, Congress is preoccupied with matters relating to the war in Iraq.

Hoyer-Greenwood "phony ban"

In the House, pro-abortion forces are attacking the bill in two ways.

First, they are promoting an alternative bill (H.R. 809), sponsored by Congressmen Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) and Jim Greenwood (R-Pa.).

Hoyer has solidly pro-abortion rating in NARAL scorecards, and Greenwood is co-chairman of the Pro-Choice Caucus.

Despite the pro-abortion credentials of the prime sponsors, advocates of the measure claim that it would restrict all methods of "late-term" abortions, and some gullible editorial writers and others have accepted this claim. However, NRLC and other pro-life groups call the bill "the phony ban."

The Hoyer-Greenwood bill would actually allow abortion on demand by any method – including partial-birth abortion – until the abortionist himself declares that the baby is "viable." Even after that point – indeed, up until birth – the bill would allow abortion by any method if the abortionist says it would "avert serious adverse health consequences to the woman."

Hoyer and Greenwood have admitted in writing that this includes "mental health."

Moreover, in a press conference on March 12, 1997, Hoyer suggested this "mental health" clause should apply when "it poses a psychological trauma to the woman to carry to term."

"Many lawmakers who oppose the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act tell their constituents that they instead favor a bill to ban so-called ‘late-term’ abortions, with an exception for narrowly defined ‘health’ cases," explained NRLC’s Douglas Johnson. "But in reality, these competing proposals are complete shams – hollow bills concocted to provide political cover for lawmakers who wish to keep perfect ratings with pro-abortion groups, while hoodwinking their constituents into believing that they oppose partial-birth abortions.

Regarding the Hoyer-Greenwood measure, Johnson commented, "Based on the explicit statements of Hoyer and Greenwood, it is clear that any lawmaker who votes for the Hoyer-Greenwood bill is voting to allow the killing of viable babies based on claims this is necessary to prevent psychological injury to the mother. Any lawmaker who votes to allow third-trimester abortions for emotional reasons should be prepared to defend that stance to their constituents."

Hoyer, Greenwood, and other pro-abortion House members want to offer their bill as a "substitute amendment" on the House floor. If this "substitute amendment" were to be adopted by majority vote, the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act would be erased. It is not yet known whether the House Rules Committee will permit a vote on this substitute amendment.

Even if no such vote is permitted, however, there will very likely be a vote on a motion (called a "motion to recommit") that would add a "health" exception to the ban – an exception so broadly worded that it would allow partial-birth abortion to be performed any time an abortionist asserted that it would benefit a woman’s emotional well-being.

If the House rejects these "killer" amendments and passes the ban intact, it will go to a House-Senate conference committee, which will write the final version. The conference committee will be controlled by lawmakers who support the bill, and they are expected to drop the pro-Roe Harkin Amendment that was added by the Senate.

Both houses must then approve the final version of the bill, which is called a "conference report." The bill will then be sent to President Bush for his signature.

The January 2003 Gallup poll found that 70% favored and 25% opposed "a law that would make it illegal to perform a specific abortion procedure conducted in the last six months of pregnancy known as ‘partial birth abortion,’ except in cases necessary to save the life of the mother."

Senate Republican Leadership Pushes Ban

Congress passed bans on partial-birth abortion in 1996 and 1997, but those bills were successfully vetoed by President Bill Clinton. Following the election of President Bush, the House again passed the ban in July of 2002, but Sen. Tom Daschle (D-SD), who at that time was Senate majority leader, refused to bring it up for a vote, thereby killing the bill for the year.

The Republicans won a one-seat Senate majority in the November, 2002 election, which made pro-life Senator Bill Frist (R-Tn.) the majority leader. Frist and other Senate Republican leaders promptly made the ban one of their "top ten" legislative priorities.

However, Senate approval came only after three days of often-heated debate. Senator Santorum spent many hours on the floor, arguing against hostile amendments and responding to misstatements of fact by pro-abortion senators.

Throughout much of the debate, Santorum and other pro-life senators displayed a series of large color illustrations of a partial-birth abortion.

Santorum and his allies turned back three attacks, any one of which could have killed the bill.

First, it was necessary to defeat a "substitute amendment" (alternative bill) offered by pro-abortion Senator Dick Durbin (D-Il.). Durbin claimed that his proposal would ban most partial-birth abortions, allowing only those needed to prevent "risk" of "grievous injury to her [the mother’s] physical health." But NRLC pointed out that the amendment actually contained overlapping loopholes that resulted in its being "all exception and no ban."

NRLC noted that when the Senate first considered a nearly identical proposal in 1997, Dr. Warren Hern, a leading practitioner of very late abortions who wrote the textbook Abortion Practice, commented, "I say every pregnancy carries a risk of death," and therefore, "I will certify that any pregnancy is a threat to a woman’s life and could cause ‘grievous injury’ to her ‘physical health.’"

After extensive debate, the Senate rejected the Durbin Substitute,

60-38. Among those who voted against it were Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) and six other hard-core pro-abortion senators, "who apparently thought it looked too much like a real restriction, even though it was entirely hollow," said NRLC’s Douglas Johnson.

Another alternative bill ("substitute amendment") was offered by Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-Ca.). The Feinstein Substitute would have allowed abortion with no limitation whatever until the point that an abortionist declared a baby to be "viable," and even after that based on any "health" claim whatever.

Supporters of the Feinstein Amendment did not deny that it would allow the killing of infants capable of surviving on their own – even in the final three months of pregnancy – for reasons of "mental health." Indeed, Senator Clinton took the Senate floor to specifically defend that position, arguing, "If we have learned anything in the last several decades, it is that there is no artificial divide between mental and physical health. The mind and the body are a totally integrated system. One affects the other. I believe that mental health is health."

The Feinstein Amendment also failed, 35-60. A motion by pro-abortion Senator Barbara Boxer (D-Ca.) to send the bill to the Senate Judiciary Committee, where it probably would have died, failed 42-56.

Frist Backs Ban

Majority Leader Frist, the only physician in the Senate, spoke in strong support of the ban on partial-birth abortions.

Frist said that experts believe "an infant . . . in fact, does feel horrific pain during the forcible manipulations and the stabbing of the skull during partial-birth abortion."

"The only advantage of partial-birth abortion – which is a disturbing advantage – is the guarantee of a dead infant," Frist said, adding, "Partial-birth abortion is more dangerous to the health of the mother than alternative procedures."

"The passage of this legislation demonstrates how devastating the elections of 2002 were in giving control of the Senate to anti-choice leadership," commented NARAL President Kate Michelman after the Senate approved the bill.

Resources

The NRLC website also contains the most extensive collection of resource materials on partial-birth abortion available anywhere on the internet.

The collection includes extensive documentation on all disputed issues surrounding partial-birth abortion. Much of this information is distilled in the testimony that NRLC presented to a joint hearing of the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee and the U.S. House Judiciary Constitution Subcommittee in March 1997, which contains footnoted citations to many primary sources (including journalists’ interviews with partial-birth abortionists).

A recently published NRLC monograph, "Revival of Some Old Myths on Roe v. Wade and Partial-Birth Abortion," critiques some "media myths" about partial-birth abortion and about Supreme Court decisions that bear on the subject, including Roe v. Wade.

2 posted on 08/03/2003 2:14:03 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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"It is expected that the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act .........will be signed into law by President Bush this fall" -Good!
3 posted on 08/03/2003 2:16:24 AM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: Free_at_last_-2001
Abortion bill faces conference setbacks (Partial Birth Abortion)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/949705/posts

4 posted on 08/03/2003 2:24:29 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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Partial-birth abortion ban hits snag over Roe v. Wade affirmation

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5 posted on 08/03/2003 2:26:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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Click the National Right to Life link above for more information on the progess of this ban legislation, including the full text of the House and Senate Bills and the "Phony Ban" and "Roe vs Wade" amendments added by the Senate Democrats.


"If the House rejects these "killer" amendments and passes the ban intact, it will go to a House-Senate conference committee, which will write the final version. The conference committee will be controlled by lawmakers who support the bill, and they are expected to drop the pro-Roe Harkin Amendment that was added by the Senate."

6 posted on 08/03/2003 2:48:10 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: Jim Robinson; Ff--150; Brian S; shaggy eel; Donna Lee Nardo; LiteKeeper; agrace; ErinsDaddy; ...
Another alternative bill ("substitute amendment") was offered by Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-Ca.). The Feinstein Substitute would have allowed abortion with no limitation whatever until the point that an abortionist declared a baby to be "viable," and even after that based on any "health" claim whatever.

And I suppose she wanted the taxpayers to pick up the tab for these atrocities as well (which is always part and parcel of the abortion worshippers agenda). They view the government as their private piggy bank to finance all sorts of anti-social liberal scams and schemes and they manage to bilk the taxpayers in the process.

Reading Di-Fi Frankenfine's deplorable amendment, one can fully fathom the depraved thinking behind these obsessed abortion purveyors amid the cultural degradation they have foisted on our Nation via legal abortion. It was the late Sen Pat Moynihan who described p/b abortion as infanticide. Frankenfine oughta look it up in the dictionary since she obviously cannot define the word (/sarcasm).

7 posted on 08/03/2003 2:55:20 AM PDT by Liz
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These damn women like Senators Frankenstein and Boxer and the rest of the democrats, all KNOW it's infanticide, but they're all onboard the out-of-control, run-away train known as "a woman's right to choose."

Their vociferous endorsement of such an act, speak volumes about their God forsaken souls and the souls of those who continue to elect them.
9 posted on 08/03/2003 4:40:37 AM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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Thank you for yanking the other and for posting this!
10 posted on 08/03/2003 4:43:47 AM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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Their vociferous endorsement of such an act, speak volumes about their God forsaken souls and the souls of those who continue to elect them.

Redefining the language to make the case for baby-killing is one of their specialties. It makes a person wonder how long it'll take before the p/b slobberers come up with a "law" to "rid" themselves of those who dare to oppose them.

11 posted on 08/03/2003 6:56:01 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
And I suppose she wanted the taxpayers to pick up the tab for these atrocities as well (which is always part and parcel of the abortion worshippers agenda). They view the government as their private piggy bank to finance all sorts of anti-social liberal scams and schemes and they manage to bilk the taxpayers in the process.

Thanks...Abortion, the Blessed Sacrament of the N.A.G. gang & Liberalism... :((

12 posted on 08/03/2003 7:33:47 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks for posting this--bump to read later!
13 posted on 08/03/2003 7:37:42 AM PDT by Okies love Dubya 2 (Okie by circumstance but Hoosier at heart)
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To: Jim Robinson
You wear the info-pusher/preach-the-message hat well, always have.
14 posted on 08/03/2003 7:44:53 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: hazelmotes
A profound story........thanks for sharing.

Although the abortion peddlars refuse to hear it, it is constantly driven home to me that the in utero handicapped child is crying out its humanity and begging for its parents care and the safety and security of their loving arms.

15 posted on 08/03/2003 8:19:49 AM PDT by Liz
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To: AAABEST
The Republican led Congress passed a partial ban abortion bill for the second time. Clinton vetoed the first one. The Senate Democrats (with the help of a few Rinos - the usual suspects - Chaffee, Collins, Snow, Specter, et al) slipped a killer amendment into this one. Hopefully the amendment can be stripped out of the final bill to be passed by the House-Senate conference and signed into law by President Bush.

The Republican/Bush hating conspiracists and anarchists are lying about this, saying that the "Republicans" sold us out. Not so. The Democrats inserted the amendment and almost all of them voted for it along with the usual Rino turncoats.

Only one thing to do. Continue building on the Republican majority while eliminating the Rinos as we can in the primaries - without turning the majority control back to the Democrats.
16 posted on 08/03/2003 5:00:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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Only one thing to do. Continue building on the Republican majority while eliminating the Rinos Even though you never listen anyway, and even though it does me no good whatsoever, I'm going to try my "advise JimRob" things again. Would you please do yourself and everyone else a favor and quit trying to "sell" Republicans to me, the other forum members and everyone else the world. More importantly, do not make the forum "policy" revolve around such, the tapestry is too varied and you'll cause more problems for what you're trying to accomplish than you'll solve. We're sophisticated enough to make up our own minds on what we think is good for the country. Every time I talk to you lately you sound like a broken record. Let the "free wheel" of Free Republic go on as it always has, good will come out in the end....I promise you. Most here are dedicated, intelligent, passionate and informed. If nothing else can I talk to you about something besides electing Republicans once in a while?
17 posted on 08/03/2003 5:33:59 PM PDT by AAABEST
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Jim, not to change the subject of the post. What is your take on all the Bush Bashing that has been going on around FR?

Thanks for the post!
18 posted on 08/03/2003 5:35:51 PM PDT by jern
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To: jern
Well, we have a very passionate and vocal contingent of Bush bashers here, but I believe that the vast majority of the FReepers (75% or better) support President Bush.
19 posted on 08/03/2003 5:43:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: AAABEST
"If nothing else can I talk to you about something besides electing Republicans once in a while?"

Probably not. Holding on to the White House, increasing the Republican majority, and replacing as many liberal activists from the judiciary as humanly possible is MY burning passion for the next several years. IMHO, it's the only way possible to dig ourselves out of the current liberal/socialist/marxist hell. I want Liberty restored in my lifetime. There's no way that's gonna happen with the Democrats in charge.

20 posted on 08/03/2003 5:51:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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