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Report on 9/11 Suggests a Role by Saudi Spies; may have reported to Saudi government
New York Times ^ | 08-01-03

Posted on 08/01/2003 8:08:11 PM PDT by Brian S

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To: Husker24
This is series.
21 posted on 08/01/2003 9:05:38 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Don't crush that dwarf , Hand me the pliers!)
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To: MJY1288
I wouldn't believe anything from Debka,

I didn't, until the AP Wire started chattering basically the same info.

As to the Saudi people and liberation, the German, Japanese and Iraqi people probably didn't want to be 'liberated' either...but we did anyway.

22 posted on 08/01/2003 9:07:04 PM PDT by Brian S ("Mount up everybody and ride to the sound of the gun!")
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To: ConservativeMan55
And hugh...if true! :)
23 posted on 08/01/2003 9:07:44 PM PDT by Brian S ("Mount up everybody and ride to the sound of the gun!")
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To: Husker24
As much as this disturbes me to say this and as disgusting as it is, if this is true and Bush gives the Saudies a pass on it, then I hope the Democrats make a hell of a big deal about it. Because someone sure as hell should.

Let me get this straight. The Democrats, who have denied actual de-classified intelligence and foreign intelligence reports of ties between Iraqi intelligence services and AQ are going to take Bush to task for not acting on still classified, anonymously sourced, contradicting and inconclusive reports of Saudi connections to AQ?

There is no question there are Saudi ties to AQ and the highjackers. 15/19 of the 911 attackers were Saudis. The question is, what's you're strategy for Saudi Arabia/Royal Saud family in the WoT?

24 posted on 08/01/2003 9:15:46 PM PDT by optimistically_conservative (Can't prove a negative? You're not stupid. Prove it!)
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To: Brian S
Is there anything in here that we didn't already know?

The connections with al-Bayoumi and Basnan, plus the Muslim cleric in San Diego, have been generally known for...how long? Twelve, maybe eighteen, months?

The only news here is that al-Bayoumi and Basnan may have had some connection with Saudi intelligence. But this seems based more on speculation than any firm evidence.

On that basis, I can clearly see why this part of the report has been classified. It's a circumstantial construction, full of guesswork and speculation. As such, it's not fit to serve as the basis for any official accusations. Or media manipulation...

25 posted on 08/01/2003 9:16:02 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: Husker24
Bottom line:

Do we trust Bush to deal with the world and Saudi, on his own time, based on seeing the big picture, or do we fall prey to the Democrats' drumbeat, who are perfectly willing to screw up our war on terror and everything else, to attack Bush.

Also note that other articles specifically mention that there is no real evidence in the 28 pages, the "evidence" is circumstantial, inconclusive, and contradictory.

NO Smoking Gun in Report

26 posted on 08/01/2003 9:16:03 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: All
Somebody wanted this out ...maybe someone inside the administration has had enough of these Islamic nuts.
27 posted on 08/01/2003 9:16:07 PM PDT by JediForce (Ah, Uday and Qusay....your 72 virgin rasins are waiting for you in the Hitler suite.....in hell...)
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To: JediForce
The Democrats are trying to make Bush look bad. That's the real agenda.
28 posted on 08/01/2003 9:18:03 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: optimistically_conservative
The strategy should be B83 strategic bombs used on Saudi Arabia for this insanity.

That's the absolute only way to deal with this. This is just crazy, and Bush better not let this slide or I'm not voting next election.
29 posted on 08/01/2003 9:18:14 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: Husker24
Anything out of a RAT mouth is a lie.

Much of this foreign policy mess ACROSS THE WORLD is a direct result of having a RAT clown in the White House for 8 yrs.

And you are ready to listen to anything they say?

30 posted on 08/01/2003 9:21:10 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: Brian S
I can't help but wonder why the 28 blank pages in the 9/11 report weren't just simply left out???

Something tells me they were left in there in order to shake people up and get them talking. We all knew that the Saudi's were donating money to any terrorist group that asked for it. Wasn't Prince Bandar's wife guilty of giving money directly to one of the 19 hi-jackers?

I believe there is more to this than GWB shielding any Saudi Business buddies, Not to mention I seriously doubt GWB has ever struck a deal with any of them. I have a hard time believing the wild theory out there by the tinfoilers that the Carlyle Group had some hidden deals going down with the Bin-Laden family and the Saudi's.

There must be 50,000 democratic hacks pouring over every transaction connected with the Carlyle Group since day one, if there was any back room deals going down that involved this administration in any way the democrats would be screaming from the rooftops for hisd Impeachment. These useless democrats have been attacking this President even before he was sworn in and each and everytime so far, they have come away with egg on their faces. Something tells me that this time will be no different

31 posted on 08/01/2003 9:21:13 PM PDT by MJY1288 (The Enemies of America can Count on the Democrats for Aid and Comfort)
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To: okie01
"On that basis, I can clearly see why this part of the report has been classified. It's a circumstantial construction, full of guesswork and speculation. As such, it's not fit to serve as the basis for any official accusations. Or media manipulation... "

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Of course. Note that the same Democrats who were screaming that the 12 years of evidence on Saddam's WMD was not solid enough, now consider these speculations a "smoking gun". All they are trying to do is to throw a monkey wrench into our War on Terror and make Bush look bad, never mind the consequences to the country.
32 posted on 08/01/2003 9:21:30 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Good point. Let me repeat that...

Also note that other articles specifically mention that there is no real evidence in the 28 pages, the "evidence" is circumstantial, inconclusive, and contradictory.

There is nothing in here that we didn't already know -- save some speculation based on contradictory reports and inconclusive evidence.

Having failed with the Niger Incident, the media and the Democrats are now trying to turn L'affaire al-Bayoumi, et al into more Bush bashing agitprop.

We don't need to be a party to it.

33 posted on 08/01/2003 9:22:33 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: Monty22
The strategy should be B83 strategic bombs used on Saudi Arabia for this insanity.

That's the absolute only way to deal with this. This is just crazy, and Bush better not let this slide or I'm not voting next election.

That's great hyperbole. So, Bush has been letting the WoT slide? I don't care if you vote or not, it's your idiocy at stake, not mine.

34 posted on 08/01/2003 9:22:56 PM PDT by optimistically_conservative (Can't prove a negative? You're not stupid. Prove it!)
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To: Brian S
The report also says that "despite the fact that he was a student, al-Bayoumi had access to seemingly unlimited funding from Saudi Arabia."

I don't know if this is true anymore, but in the early 80's many Saudi Arabian students in the US had access to "seemingly unlimited funding". For instance the Saudi government would not only pay their tuition, but buy them a house to live in.

35 posted on 08/01/2003 9:23:22 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: MJY1288
One only has to wonder what other Country of this planet could "demand" an audience with the President of the United States and be granted such a request in the short order that the "House of Saud" dictated earlier this week.

I found it strange at the time and even more so now...

36 posted on 08/01/2003 9:25:17 PM PDT by Brian S ("Mount up everybody and ride to the sound of the gun!")
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To: FairOpinion
Lord, I am coming to truly hate the mainstream media.

One might argue that they have become America's (and freedom's) greatest enemy.

37 posted on 08/01/2003 9:25:36 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: okie01
I don't want to turn this into a "mutual admiration society" ;) but let me repeat what you just said:

"Having failed with the Niger Incident, the media and the Democrats are now trying to turn L'affaire al-Bayoumi, et al into more Bush bashing agitprop.

We don't need to be a party to it. "

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I hope Freepers and the conservative media stops and thinks first and won't jump onto the Democrats' Bush bashing bandwagon, using the Saudi Trojan Horse.

38 posted on 08/01/2003 9:29:23 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: okie01
Also note that other articles specifically mention that there is no real evidence in the 28 pages, the "evidence" is circumstantial, inconclusive, and contradictory.

Then publish the 28 pages and get it over with. That would end the "mystery" now wouldn't it.

Call in the moles, spies, etc. (which we can't trust anyway) and tell them the gig's up.

Let the pages fly. Better yet, do it tomorrow, so all the Sunday talkie shows can pick over it and get it over with. End of problem...

39 posted on 08/01/2003 9:30:33 PM PDT by Brian S ("Mount up everybody and ride to the sound of the gun!")
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To: optimistically_conservative
If Bush knows who did 9/11, and lets them off.. You're damn right that's it for me. Should be for everyone.
40 posted on 08/01/2003 9:30:50 PM PDT by Monty22
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