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[jwalsh07]

You hardly have to be racist to point out that the LA rioters in '92 were black or that they were obviously using the occasion to loot and plunder with impunity.

Tell it to the black conservatives who post here. How exactly are they to take that statement?

Does the statement speak to individual's that riot as a means to profit or does it speak to a group of people who happen to be black?

I understand English and unless the poster tells me different I see it as insulting to the black conservatives who frequent this web site and not the way to win more blacks to the conservative side of the ledger.

How do you see it?

[Chad Fairbanks]

As a 'minority', I can be pretty sensitive to nuances in things people say, but sometimes people go a little bit overboard... But, what can you do?

[Chad Fairbanks]

I could understand your point if, for example, the poster in question had said "All blacks are lazy opportunists that use racism as an excuse to loot and get free stuff...", but I have to admit I didn't read that into what he said...

[gsrinok]

How do you see it?

I see it as a fact. It's hardly racist to recognize looters and rioters who prey on the helpless as the scum that they are. If white people were rioting in the streets because a black officer was not convicted in a case that involved a white criminal, I would call them scum as well.

[jwalsh07]

Well, Chad , I'll tell you what. I'm not a sensitive guy. I even chuckled at your second grade allusion to my sexuality.

But the black conservatives that I know post here are fed up with that kind of crap. But I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll ask them if they take umbrage at that staement and if I'm wrong, I'll apologise for being "sensitive".

What say you guys?

[jwalsh07]

It's also not racist to point out that, only a few weeks ago, several hundred (at least) blacks in Benton Harbor, Michigan, chose to riot after some idiot on a motorcycle decided to run from the police and ended up getting killed when he ran into a wall.

:-} I've got no problem calling scumbags scumbags. None whatsoever. It's broad brush sh%t that bugs me.

[gsrinok]

But the black conservatives that I know post here are fed up with that kind of crap.

The black conservatives that I know are sick of black hoodlums committing crimes and then playing the race card as if they shouldn't be held accountable because of their skin color.

[jwalsh07]

Do YOU? I can tell you in very few words, pal o' mine.

What? Do you do, Feel like you do....?

[jwalsh07]

The black conservatives that I know are sick of black hoodlums committing crimes and then playing the race card as if they shouldn't be held accountable because of their skin color.

What crime was committed? Did the riots start? Are they over? Who's playing a race card?

[Chad Fairbanks]

I could live with that - if people are reading something into it differently than I am, that's all fine and well.

However, I also know how I read it, and will, unless other evidence presents itself*, stick with my initial impression...


(*Evidence defined as any posts easily deemed racist by teh poster in question, which could in theory cause me to rethink my initial impression)

[gsrinok]

It's broad brush sh%t that bugs me.

Understood. I don't think, however, that it's too broad a statement to state that the '92 LA riots were racial in nature and overwhelmingly perpetrated by blacks who took the opportunity to victimize the innocent and helpless. A cursory glance of any video from that time period confirms it.

[blam]

"Maybe a couple hundred of wounded rioters would send a message to Jesse's minions."

62 died, don't know how many were wounded.

[jwalsh07]

Well, perhaps the poster will clarify. I don't know. Perhaps I misunderstood the intent but absent a response from the poster I'll stick to my first impression.

I'm not a holy roller Chad, I'm a sinner. I grew up in NYC and freely admit that in my misspent youth I was not a paradigm of virtue as regards race relations.

But I'm older now and have come to the conclusion that individual rights and personal responsibility should be the coin of the realm. I'm sick of group think and I see statements like that perpetuating it.

OK, done preaching.

[jwalsh07]

Understood. I don't think, however, that it's too broad a statement to state that the '92 LA riots were racial in nature and overwhelmingly perpetrated by blacks who took the opportunity to victimize the innocent and helpless. A cursory glance of any video from that time period confirms it.

Neither do I. I watched that group of punks smash the crap out of Reginald Denny with pieces of curb. And I watched as the shopkeepers defended their businesses with AK's and Ar's.

Screw the punks and good on the shopkeepers.

[gsrinok]

What crime was committed? Did the riots start? Are they over? Who's playing a race card?

I think most of the conversation here has been posted with the '92 riots in mind. No, there haven't been any riots in LA yet tonight, and I hope there aren't.

[gsrinok]

Screw the punks and good on the shopkeepers.

You got that right. There's no way I would operate a business ANYWHERE without easy access to my firearm.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Well, seems we both think a lot alike :0)

[jwalsh07]

paradigm=paragon dude