Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Iron Butterfly Member Dead?

Posted on 07/28/2003 6:57:33 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-52 next last

1 posted on 07/28/2003 6:57:33 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Lunatic Fringe
Unfortunate timing. Bob Hope's death will overshadow even Iraq for the rest of the day, maybe even two.
2 posted on 07/28/2003 6:59:51 AM PDT by Teacher317
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lunatic Fringe
Maybe Bob Hope played percussion for them
3 posted on 07/28/2003 7:00:18 AM PDT by philo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lunatic Fringe
Here's a link from Google nwes search,

http://www.startribune.com/stories/457/4011223.html
4 posted on 07/28/2003 7:00:33 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Teacher317
LOS ANGELES - Erik Braunn, the Iron Butterfly guitarist who played one of rock's most recognizable riffs in the 17-minute anthem "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida," died of cardiac arrest Friday. He was 52.
5 posted on 07/28/2003 7:01:23 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (When news breaks, we fix it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Lunatic Fringe
You must be thinking of Philip Kramer the bassist who has been missing for years, but I thought they found his body a few years ago. This is the story I found on the Net:

Phillip "Taylor" Kramer was most famously known as the bassist for the band Iron Butterfly. Being a rock star actually was only part of his life; he also studied engineering and built radar equipment. At one time, he was at Northrop working on the design of an MX missile. He and a few colleagues formed a computer company called Total Multimedia. His wife said before his mysterious disappearance he had been staying up late at night working on programming and a mathematical formula. No one was exactly sure what is was, an article I read said he had discovered a mathematical formula that would allow matter to travel faster than the speed of light. But on the Unsolved Mysteries tv episode I saw his wife said it was some sort of program that compressed data and could find a child in a huge crowd just by having a small picture of their face. What ever it was it was big, his wife reported that he would stay up late at night long hours working on this; and right before his disappearance he started acting strangely by finding sacredness in everything. One day shortly before his disappearance the couple went on a hike as they were looking at the view of the town Taylor Kramer pointed out that their house was in the same line as a cross on a church. His wife blames his strange behavior on sleep deprivation.


On February 12, 1995 he was left in a Ford Astrovan and went to Los Angeles International Airport to wait for a business associate who never showed up. After and hour of waiting he left the airport. While driving to an unknown destination, he made a series of strange phone calls on his cell phone in his van. One to his wife telling her his plans had changed for that day. One to the drummer for Iron Butterfly Ron Bushy whom he told that he would "see him on the other side and that he loved him more than life itself", the other phone call was to 911 saying that he was "going to commit suicide" He didn't return home after that, so his family took out missing persons fliers. When passing out the fliers they found two people who reported seeing him, one was at a garage sale. Despite the reports, no one could find him or the van he was driving.


A green Astrovan was found at the bottom of a Malibu canyon in the Santa Monica Mountains in 1999. Two hikers were made the discovery and saw human remains inside the van. The authorities used dental records to ensure it was Taylor Kramer. But still even after they found him from his disappearance there are so many questions that remain unanswered. The #1 questions, did he really commit suicide? Since he had worked so hard on his mathematical formula the possibility comes up that the US government or a foreign government could have had some action in this. Or if he really did commit suicide on his own freewill why? His project he had worked on was supposedly going to be really big and help people. Another question what exactly was he working on? No one has really been able to put together what his project was and if his colleagues are continuing at this point. Also he had been happy before his disappearance, he had a good life, and he had no "trigger events" before his suicide/ or murder, it's still unknown.


This is one of my favorite mysterious subjects, in a way it's a mystery and a conspiracy theory bringing in the fact of that project he was working on. And they still to this day are not sure exactly what happened on him the day of his dissapearance. If you ever watch the Unsolved Mysteries television show, they have it on there sometimes. It's a very interesting episode to watch, especially if you are a fan of the band Iron Butterfly.
6 posted on 07/28/2003 7:01:31 AM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lunatic Fringe
Here's a link that works;

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,93057,00.html
7 posted on 07/28/2003 7:02:13 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Admin Moderator
Please remove question mark from title... story is confirmed.
8 posted on 07/28/2003 7:02:19 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (When news breaks, we fix it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Lunatic Fringe
Guess it wasn't about Kramer after all.
9 posted on 07/28/2003 7:02:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Lunatic Fringe
da-da-da-daddadadda-da-daddadda...

Innagaddadavita.....

10 posted on 07/28/2003 7:03:02 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (...ignorance can be fixed, but stupid is forever...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lunatic Fringe
When Erik Braunn was having his Elvis moment in 196? he was probably looked at Bob Hope as an old geezer with one foot in the grave.
11 posted on 07/28/2003 7:03:49 AM PDT by Tribune7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Lunatic Fringe
Has anybody heard from the members of "The Strawberry Alarm Clock"?

I hope they're OK.

12 posted on 07/28/2003 7:05:29 AM PDT by dead
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
This is one of my favorite mysterious subjects, in a way it's a mystery and a conspiracy theory bringing in the fact of that project he was working on.

I agree....the story of this remarkable man would make a great book.
13 posted on 07/28/2003 7:08:26 AM PDT by mr.pink
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Lunatic Fringe
He was 17 years old when he came up with that riff.

(that's what a guitar pal of mine told me)
14 posted on 07/28/2003 7:10:03 AM PDT by Rebelbase
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Lunatic Fringe
He wasn't working as a parking lot attendant was he?;-)
15 posted on 07/28/2003 7:10:40 AM PDT by StriperSniper (Make South Korea an island)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dead
What about the members of Blue Cheer? For some reason I always got Blue Cheer and Iron Butterfly mixed up.
16 posted on 07/28/2003 7:11:11 AM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: StriperSniper
Heh. What is it about rock stars and Sheperd Smith, when they think they can hit people with their cars because they are irritated. I tell them... try DFW traffic on a Monday morning, you weaklings.
17 posted on 07/28/2003 7:15:11 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (When news breaks, we fix it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Teacher317
Bob Hope died? When?
18 posted on 07/28/2003 7:18:19 AM PDT by August West
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Lunatic Fringe
Damn... gotta get out my Iron Butterfly 8-track, and listen on the way to work...

"In a gadda-da < CLICK > vida..."
19 posted on 07/28/2003 7:18:46 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Some days, it's just not worth gnawing through the straps...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Chancellor Palpatine
Innagaddadavita.....

One band member said to the writer of the song, "what do you call it?" The wasted writer said, "Innagaddadavita." What he meant to say was, "In the Garden of Eden."

20 posted on 07/28/2003 7:19:26 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-52 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson