Posted on 07/27/2003 5:08:19 PM PDT by thatdewd
Edited on 05/07/2004 6:46:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Well heck, Pea, since one of the books that Jim Limber isn't in was the one from his 'daddy' and another book that Jim Limber isn't in is one written by his 'mommy' then doesn't that strike you as suspicious? Add to that the fact that Jim Limber isn't in either of the most recent biographies of Davis and I have to wonder why not. And the most likely reason is it didn't happen.
Here is a source for you...
Seems like you are back to the old "any old port in a storm" school of research. Yeah, I know aboutMary Boyken, Pea. She is apparently the only source for this whole 'adopted son' myth. There probably was a Jim Limber. Maybe the Davis family took him into their home. But adopt? Hardly.
Well, Peeshwank, I'll defer to your expertise in the 'irrelevant post' area.
I'm glad you noticed that. Lincoln may be many things but he wasn't a saint or a knight, and he supported abolition most of his life but I'm not sure if he had a position on the subject before he reached adulthood. Not like Saint Sir Jefferson of Davis, father of abolition, right? </sarcasm>
The only one deifiying anyone around here is you and your Jefferson Davis, kight, saint, and lifelong abolitionist. I'm sorry, I crack up every time I read that. Jeff Davis, saint and abolitionist. It's just too funny.
I love your mouth.
Maybe that's why you have such a loyalty to Jeff Davis. PeaRidge has dredged up that old story about Jim Limber coming to live the the Davis family, maybe there was another reason for the Jeff's generosity. Young boy...all alone in the world...taken in by a 'nurturing' older man...makes more sense than 'good servants are hard to find if you ask me. What do you think?
You show wisdom for once, Limppintle. I don't produce them but I can recognize them, with you it's the other way around. That's why we have division of labour!
Not quite. Lincoln was indeed a tyrant though, as were many of his cohorts and cronies in the GOP at the time.
Nonsense, you are much to modest a peeshwank for your own good. Your posts rank right up there on the irrelevant meter. Say it loud, say it proud, you're mad as hell and nobody gives a damn.
Why Marse GOP, you surprise me. Keep that up and nolu chan will think you've gone soft on Lincoln.
Just shake yo' haid, boy.
Yeah, but how do you feel about single-sex statues marrying?
Again, a state issue.
Glad to see you haven't signed up with the NAACP's War on the South, or joined the PC Police. For a while there, I was worried about you.
What's wrong with that? Delusion seems to be working for you.
That does not appear to be the case at all. I did a quick search on the net for information. I could not find an e-text of Varina Davis' book, but the article at this link quotes a passage from her about Jim Limber on page 198 of volume II. Perhaps somebody else here who has a printed copy of this book can post the full passage.
http://www.kudzumonthly.com/kudzu/dec02/BoyGangs.html
"Hard facts are few and far between, while intriguing questions abound. Oral tradition includes nearly a dozen stories concerning Lincoln's paternity. Nearly two centures after he was born, these tales continue to circulate in Kentucky, North Carolina, and South Carolina.
"According to them, three of the most likely candidates for having fathered Abraham Lincoln are: Samuel Davis of Kentucky, father of Jefferson Davis; John C. Calhoun of South Carolina, whose nullification doctrine paved the way for secession; and prosperous teacher-merchant Abraham Enloe of western North Carolina."
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"Herndon insisted that when his long-time partner fell victim to John Wilkes Booth, he believed himself to be illegitimate."
"Herndon, who contacted every person he could find who had known the Lincoln family during Abraham's boyhood, received strange reports. Numerous correspondents told him that Thomas Lincoln -- short, stout, and 'tightly built and compact' -- couldn't possibly have been the father of six-foot, four-inch Abraham; he was incapable of getting a child."
"Herndon considered it beyond dispute that Thomas was sterile."
The most likely story seems to be that Lincoln was born in North Carolina, the son of Abraham Enloe.
However, there is that possibility that his father was Samuel Davis and he was the half-brother of Jefferson Davis.
Here is a LINK to a side by side comparison of Abraham Lincoln and Wesley Enloe, son of Abraham Enlow, possibly the half-brother of Abraham Lincoln. He bears a remarkable physical resemblance to Abraham Lincoln.
There is also the very well-documented 13-page PDF article in Genealogy Today in support of the Abraham Enloe lineage. It is by Vincent Enlow, a descendant of Abraham Enloe, seeking to establish his own family relationship to Lincoln. It is a serious, deliberative effort.
Well, what do you think?
Was Lincoln really the half-brother of Jefferson Davis?
Was Lincoln the son of Abraham Enloe?
Or did sterile Tom make a baby?
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