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Mystery Illness Kills Missouri Soldier
Missouri News-Leader ^ | 7/16/03 | Eric Eckert

Posted on 07/26/2003 10:22:20 AM PDT by SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch

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Has anyone heard any follow up on this?
1 posted on 07/26/2003 10:22:21 AM PDT by SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch
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To: SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch
Verrry strange....
2 posted on 07/26/2003 10:26:18 AM PDT by Humidston (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
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To: Humidston
and it's bringing out the goofy ones...

Found this one at Arabia.com:

US soldiers deployed around Baghdad airport started showing symptoms of mysterious fever, itching, scars and dark brown spots on the skin, the source, who refused to be named, said in statements published Thursday, July 17, by the Saudi Al-Watan newspaper.

He asserted that three soldiers who suffered these symptoms did not respond to medical treatment in Iraqi hospitals and were flown to Washington for medication...

US officials did not come up with an explanation for the symptoms, which NATO experts tend to believe result from direct exposure to powerful nuclear radiations of the sophisticated B-2 bombs used in the war on Iraq, particularly in striking Iraqi Republican Guards forces who deployed to defend the vicinity of Baghdad airport.

DAMN!!! We nuked 'em and I didn't even know it!
3 posted on 07/26/2003 10:29:48 AM PDT by SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch ("If you don't read the paper, you are uninformed. If you do read the paper, you are misinformed."...)
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"I know the doctor over in Germany said he got into some type of toxin," Mark Neusche said. "Several soldiers were in similar conditions while we were there."

It couldn't be WMD's. Saddam doesn't have any.(sarcasm)

Wonder what it could be?

4 posted on 07/26/2003 10:34:22 AM PDT by auggy (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
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To: Humidston
Seems he wasn't the only one. Just curious if there are any other publications talking about this. The original article was the 16th., here's today's follow-up...

July 26, 2003

Experts to investigate Ozarks soldier's death
Family hopes answers will protect other soldiers

By Eric Eckert, Copyright ? 2003
News-Leader Staff

The U.S. government is investigating whether the death of a Missouri National Guardsman is related to 11 other incidents of severe pneumonia among soldiers stationed in the Middle East.
The U.S. Army Surgeon General's Office confirmed Friday two teams of epidemiology experts will investigate the 12 cases, two of which were fatal. National Guard Spc. Joshua Neusche, 20, of Montreal, Mo., was one of the two troops who died.

Deploying such teams is rare, said Col. Robert DeFraites, the surgeon general's senior preventative-medicine physician. "This only happens one or two times every year."

A two-person team has already been sent to the Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany, where Neusche was treated before his death on July 12. An additional six-person team is gearing up to fly to undisclosed areas of Iraq, where other soldiers began suffering from the illness.

The teams will study everything from the soldiers' medical records and tissue samples to soil, water and air samples, DeFraites said.

"Nothing's going to be ruled out," DeFraites said. "When you go into one of these things, you keep an open mind. ... There's enough concern about these two fatal cases (occurring) in such a short period of time" to warrant the investigation.

The colonel said they've not yet been able to identify a specific bacterium or virus that could have caused such severe cases of pneumonia, but added that 17 soldiers have died from acute respiratory distress syndrome in the past five years.

"It's not entirely unheard of for this to happen," DeFraites said. It is uncommon for pneumonia to cause a breakdown in organs other than the lungs, he said.

Neusche's parents said they were told their son's kidneys, liver and muscles began to deteriorate after he contracted the illness.

"The problem with Josh's death was they didn't know what they were fighting," the soldier's father, Mark Neusche, said Friday. "The doctor said (Josh) got into some type of toxin that began degenerating his muscles."

Without releasing specific numbers, DeFraites said there has been a noticeable increase in pneumonia cases among soldiers since the war in Iraq began.

Under normal circumstances, the colonel said, they expect to see 750 cases worldwide each year among troops.

Considering the number of troops in Iraq, DeFraites said the incidents of pneumonia are exceeding military expectations — 10-20 cases among deployed soldiers each month. Most of the patients have served in Kuwait and Iraq.

Since March 1, the 12 soldiers serving overseas in the Central Command's Area of Responsibility have fallen ill with pneumonia and had to be placed on respirators, the doctor said. Two suffered from a serious form of the illness called pneumococcus pneumonia, but lived.

Many of those soldiers have recovered and are back to work, but questions still linger as to what actually killed Neusche and another unnamed soldier, who died June 17.

Searching for answers

Mark and Cynthia Neusche said they will not accept "pneumonia" or "complications from pneumonia" as the reason for their son's death.

"There has to be more of an explanation than that," his mother said. "Josh was never sick. He was healthy. He ran cross country and track."

The Neusches said Josh — a heavy-equipment operator with the National Guard's 203rd Engineer Battalion — fell ill on June 30 after returning to his camp in Baghdad. He had just completed a mission that started four days earlier. Fellow soldiers found him unresponsive in his tent.

"Before he went to sleep, he told his friend he was tired and had a sore throat," Cynthia Neusche said.

Neusche's parents learned of their son's condition on July 2 and flew to Landstuhl to be with him one day before he died. Doctors there told the couple their son's organs had stopped functioning and he'd have to be transferred to a hospital in Hamburg and placed on dialysis. The soldier was dead by the time he arrived in Hamburg.

Physicians suspected unidentified toxins, Mark Neusche said, and he wants to know more about those substances. He and his wife are scheduled to speak with a medical examiner and a representative with the surgeon general's office Monday at Fort Leonard Wood.

"We're not against the military on this," Cynthia Neusche said. "Josh would just want us to find out what killed him."

Toxic exposure

DeFraites said preliminary tests show the illness is not passed from person to person and is not related to severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS.

Aside from bacteria and viruses, he said, pneumonia can also be brought on by fungus, parasites and noninfectious causes such as exposure to metal dust.

"We don't think depleted uranium has anything to do with it," the colonel said, referring to the element some contend led to soldier illness during the first Gulf War. "There's nothing to suggest depleted uranium would cause pneumonia in the soldiers we've seen."

DeFraites said the 12 soldiers' vaccination records will be studied, as will their personal habits.

"No vaccines cause pneumonia as a side effect," he said. "... You look for clues. Where were they? What are their ages? ... There's probably more to be gained by looking at their environment, blood, lab findings and personal habits."

Infectious agents such as anthrax and smallpox will also be investigated, the doctor said.

Mark Neusche believes his son may have come in contact with some kind of toxin while digging in the Iraqi sand.

"We know there are chemical weapons over there," Mark Neusche said. "Maybe something was leaked into the sand."

Keeping soldiers safe

Regarding deployment of the epidemiology teams — a relatively rare occurrence — DeFraites said units were sent last summer to Fort Bragg in North Carolina to investigate a series of murders and to Fort Leonard Wood when the post experienced a meningitis outbreak in early 2002.

The Iraq team will augment medical military personnel already in that country. It includes an epidemiologist, who will study the patterns of disease and health in the targeted population; an infectious-disease specialist, who will diagnose and prescribe treatment for infections; a microbiologist and laboratory technicians.

The team will stay in Iraq for about a month, DeFraites said.

Stephen Robinson, executive director of the National Gulf War Resource Center — a veterans advocacy group — said he has been watching this trend of strange illnesses closely. He said he's encouraged by the military's latest investigative actions.

"We serve veterans of the last Gulf War, many who have had exposures to elements that made them ill," Robinson said.

"Our interest in this instance is to make sure we hear the truth and we don't let events like this get buried and never resolved. We're out there fighting for these guys who are fighting for us."

In his last letter to his parents, Josh Neusche wrote: "I have millions of stories to tell and I want to tell you in person."

Mark Neusche said he hopes the investigation will provide safety for those soldiers remaining in Iraq so they can live to tell their stories.

"If there's anything we can do to keep those other soldiers from dying, we'll do it," he said. "... Maybe they'll find something and be able to do something about it."
5 posted on 07/26/2003 10:35:08 AM PDT by SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch ("If you don't read the paper, you are uninformed. If you do read the paper, you are misinformed."...)
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To: SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch
You know, I had a cousin who was a young woman, she had just gotten married, she must've been about 32 yrs old, and she just got sick, and died. I think they said it was some unusual viral thing, I don't remember. She was only sick for a few days, and before that she had been perfectly healthy.

My poor aunt has had so much hardship in her life, this just seemed too much.
6 posted on 07/26/2003 10:35:53 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch
Mystery Illness Kills Missouri Soldier

"Mystery" just means the disease that killed this poor soldier
(and whatever afflicts some of the other deployed) is:

1. Something exotic our military doctors can't recognize
AND/OR
2. A disease course that the doctors haven't gotten a full story on, so it's
a challenge for them to solve
AND/OR
3. A combination of syndromes that makes diagnosis very challenging
AND/OR
4. Represents some sort of diagnostic "perfect storm" combined of 1-3 above,
M.D. ignorance/incompetence, or "the great unknown".

I'm not an M.D., but just say this having lived this long thanks to the help
of very competent (and I might add compassinate and concerned) M.D.s and
having suffered at the hands of a couple M.D.s who I suspect at least
lost their edge a year or two out of med school/residency.
7 posted on 07/26/2003 10:45:43 AM PDT by VOA
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To: jocon307
Sad. Guess we never know how close we are to the end. Look at David Bloom of NBC.
8 posted on 07/26/2003 10:46:30 AM PDT by SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch ("If you don't read the paper, you are uninformed. If you do read the paper, you are misinformed."...)
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To: aristeides; TaxRelief; Fred Mertz; backhoe; blam; Judith Anne; riri; flutters; Shermy; All
Hmmmm,

Iraqi civilians have stolen drums that contained the old yellowcake from the 80's.

They are using then for water.

Does anyone know if this soldier was near that area of the old yellowcake?

What do we do if this GI and the others mentioned are the start of a massive bio attack ala SARS?
9 posted on 07/26/2003 10:49:03 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch
Yikes...

Seems to me that new diseases are just coming out of the woodwork...

10 posted on 07/26/2003 10:51:18 AM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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To: VOA
Agreed. I'm not ready to screw on my tin-foil hat...but I am rubbing my chin and looking thoughtful. So far this has been very low key considering there have been 2 deaths of young, healthy people.
11 posted on 07/26/2003 10:53:09 AM PDT by SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch ("If you don't read the paper, you are uninformed. If you do read the paper, you are misinformed."...)
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To: SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch
Bio weapon?
12 posted on 07/26/2003 10:54:02 AM PDT by Petruchio (<===Looks Sexy in a flightsuit . . . Looks Silly in a french maid outfit)
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To: SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch
Yes, it's true. When it is your time, you're going. Before it's your time, you're not. This is my conclusion after 45 years of observing the world. For every "pre-mature" death we can find someone who has "cheated death".
13 posted on 07/26/2003 10:57:07 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch
for later read.....
14 posted on 07/26/2003 11:44:42 AM PDT by rface (Ashland, Missouri - FReeping polls since 1998)
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To: SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch
I wonder if it was ethylene glycol poisoning. Might be worth asking his team-mates if he drank any native hooch. Of course, it doesn't take much to put some anti-freeze in the unit's gatorade bag, but lots more would be sick.

/john

15 posted on 07/26/2003 11:48:10 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (I'm just a cook.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
That would sure shut down the kidneys.
16 posted on 07/26/2003 11:51:12 AM PDT by SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch ("If you don't read the paper, you are uninformed. If you do read the paper, you are misinformed."...)
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To: SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch
bump
17 posted on 07/26/2003 12:54:41 PM PDT by Free Vulcan
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To: VOA
"A disease course that the doctors haven't gotten a full story on, so it's
a challenge for them to solve"

Since this soldier was assigned to an Engineer Battalion, he may have been involved in grading or other earth moving operations that stirred up a lot of dust. If so, he may have contracted something similar to Valley Fever which is sometimes fatal.
18 posted on 07/26/2003 1:03:28 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: Betty Jo; Badabing Badaboom
The symptoms don't sound like radiation sickness to me. They remind me of that ship's officer that was initially thought to have anthrax poisoning.
19 posted on 07/26/2003 1:31:48 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch
DU?
20 posted on 07/26/2003 1:42:13 PM PDT by Marianne
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