The world's next superpower

Taipei Times ^ | 07.23.03 | Jonathan Fenby

[The Pheonix]

RE your post #3

The photo you posted is that of King Abdullah of Jordan. So, he is the 4th King

[SauronOfMordor]

China is no longer a communist nation. To put it in their own words, they are "Socialist with Chinese characteristics".

More accurately, they've graduated from communism to national socialism (the term "Nazi" was a contraction of "National Socialist German Workers Party"). The people who are wealthy necessarily must have ties to the ruling communist elite, and over time the wealthy class and the communist elite will merge into oligarchy.

This merging is necessary -- you only "own" property if you have the means of defending it (either personally, or thru the use of the state's police powers). If the ruling elite cannot arbitrarily confiscate your property, then that means there are limits on their power. This would lead to the wealthy being in a position to have a say in how things are run. The ruling old men cannot tolerate that, however much some degree of liberalization would benefit their economy

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

Forgot about the Phillipines.

They would probably need to hold at least part of that country to take Australia.

New Zealand would probably be a tasy morsel too.

[The Pheonix]

The Philpines consiste of well over 7000 islands and a population of 70 million. There is widespread poverty and a host of social-economic problems. It is the "sick man of Asia", what the Brits call "a basket case"

Now, in view of this, who in his right mind would even think of conquering her ?

[Quix]

Got through all of it. It's an astute article.

I have forgotten which river is where so I don't know that 3 Gorges' collapse would flood Shanghai or another coastal region.

Corruption etc. remains a serious, serious problem. But Chinese jugglers are greatly skilled in politics or the circus stage.

Millions of unmarried men are likely to be a very troublesome force whether they turn into AIDS spreading homosexuals or angry violent gangs roaming where they can.

Officials are aware of the fact that persecuting the authentic Christians only seems to make them multiply in numbers. Yet, they do it. The impact of that remains to be seen. I suspect that it will be the Believers who will pick up the pieces--except that they may be gone on a 7 year Heavenly holiday while evil in the world is punished and the world cleansed of evil.

Anyway--with China on the scene, dull moments are likely to be less and less.

[Helms]

China: ANOTHER COUNTRY WHICH WILL TRY MISCHIEF
AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR WORLD PREDICAMENT.

[SauronOfMordor]

Plus, their emphasis on sons is going to produce a huge surplus of single men with no one to marry in a few decades. All in all, I'd say things don't look that rosy for China.

It will just mean that there will be an incentive for Chinese men to immigrate to other countries in search of wives.

[Quix]

True, they didn't do much for 100's of years with

THEIR

--paper money
--gun powder
--block printing

etc.

However, underestimating their creativity, brilliance, persistence, determination to rule the world

would be foolish to the extreme.

[ASA Vet]

Australia seems like the ticket. Thinly populated by Asian standards and wide open spaces

"Thinly populated" doesn't seem like a good place to go find a billion women.

[dead]

Communism and capitalism cannot coexist in the same realm for long.

One of them will eventually topple the other in China, and based on their records, I'd put my money on capitalism.

Might go fifteen bloody rounds though.

[Quix]

Guess I disagree that they are not a totalitarian state.

Whim decisions at the top can still result in arbitrary deaths from the top down to the lowest rice paddy.

Granted, decisions are usually agonizingly methodical and pedantic by hamstrung group process.

But the corruption alone leads to plenty of totalitarian sorts of ruthlessness.

Add in the army and arrogance in the top levels of the Party and I think there's plenty of totalitarianism left.

[The Pheonix]

How about "mail order brides ?"

[SauronOfMordor]

It is human nature that most young males desire females homosexual propaganda not withstanding. Those desires will be filled or there will be violence. Since China does not have the females to fill this need violence will result.

They can fill te shortage with Russian mail order brides

[Quix]

My Chinese friends locally insist that China has targeted the USA for acquisition but only after plenty of their other ducks are in a row.

[Quix]

Illegal is sometimes the same as nothing

when the "backdoor" is still so operative in China.

And in medical areas, extra 'payments' and favors have long been required to get the best care.

[dead]

Australia seems like the ticket. Thinly populated by Asian standards and wide open spaces.

The reason Australia has such wide-open spaces is that those spaces are unihabitable for all intents and purposes.

The inhabitable parts are fairly densely populated.

[Brian Allen]

Nine point five million square kilometers [3.66 million square miles] of land of which an area of more that 2.5 million squares miles is the property of other nations, states and peoples -- not a single elected government in its much-vaunted "5,000 years of history" [Most of THAT fantasized and "recorded" by delusional lickspittle slaves during the reign of Human History's most prolific mass murderer, the predatorily-psychopathological pedophile, the serial-child-rapist, Mao Tze Tung -- and a Peking-based pack of every-bit-as predatorily-psychopathological lying looting, thieving mass-murdering gangster bastards that calls itself "china" in charge of more than a billion pathetic slaves -- and what little's left to loot?

And this joker wants us to believe "china's" figures and to be impressed with its stated "growth" when those of us who live here in Asia and anyone anywhere with a brain can see the life's blood being drained with no better command of "economics" than that afforded one by the old and trusty "Mark Eight eye ball!"

Look at Hong Kong whose wealth of blood and treasure has long ago been leached into the Peking pack's purses -- and with it [And Britain's squalid sell-out] the underpinning of most of South East Asia's so-called "tigers." [More than 85% of whose own much-vaunted "economic miracles" and "growth" represented foreign investment minus theft, graft and corruption]

"China" looks good to those who believe its murderers' lies and/or to those who need it to look good for whatever reason or to fulfil whatever ambition -- but take out America's Trillion or so Dollars of investments and trade imbalances and whaddyah got?

A delusional fantasy.

And a coming American credit-card interest-rate hike similar to those with which our Peter-Principle "managed" corporations' scurrilous underwriters have always "financed" their disasters and recovered their losses. Right up there with "deficit spending" and "inflation" among the most insidious forms of taxation -- and the means by which Wall Street's more evil bastards get away with capatalizing their gains and socializing their [Our] losses.

[LibertyAndJusticeForAll]

"Australia seems like the ticket. Thinly populated by Asian standards and wide open spaces."

I worked with a Kiwi who told me that NZ has a rapidly growing Asian population. To her surprise, her mother is becoming quite bigoted, making remarks about their driving, etc.
I found this article discussing NZ Asian population trend:
http://onenews.nzoom.com/onenews_detail/0,1227,196722-1-7,00.html

Most of Australia is the Outback; I wouldn't want to live there. The book/movie "A Town Like Alice" convinced me (although it was a great novel).
Australia also already has a growing Asian population.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

They could steal them on the way,(Phillipinas) or obtain them as tribute from their neighbors after they have colonized Australia.

I bet Cambodia, Viet Nam, and the like would ship out a portion of their female population to avoid being devoured.

[TheRightGuy]

It is more likely that China will implode in the next 50 years

But in the short term, why not make a few bucks off it? The China Fund (CHN) been very, very good to me.