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Date Limit Set On First Americans
BBC ^ | 7-22-2003 | Paul Rincon

Posted on 07/22/2003 6:11:50 PM PDT by blam

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I notice they didn't mention one word about the dental study don ASU professor Christy Turner. It shows a distinct difference.
1 posted on 07/22/2003 6:11:51 PM PDT by blam
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Spirit Cave Man is the oldest, 9,400 years old, mummy ever found in the Americas, he died in his mid-40's in a cave in Nevada.

2 posted on 07/22/2003 6:14:43 PM PDT by blam
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looks like they're talking about this guy
3 posted on 07/22/2003 6:21:06 PM PDT by agitator (Ok, mic check...line one...)
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Why do they keep saying "swamped" when "eaten" is probably more appropriate.
4 posted on 07/22/2003 6:22:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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mtDNA is much more reliable than looking at bones or their fossils. I remember posting an article a while back that seemed to prove a Euro origin for the lake Indians. I'm sure you were on that thread. I will have to withold my judgement...
5 posted on 07/22/2003 6:25:14 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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"The scientists knew that determining when mutations occurred on haplotype 10 might reveal a date for the first entry of people into America. "

And that sentence would fit freakishly well into any Star Trek episode..
6 posted on 07/22/2003 6:26:14 PM PDT by Monty22
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There's not just Monte Verde, there's also a Brazilian site I believe.
7 posted on 07/22/2003 6:41:35 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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I notice they didn't mention one word about the dental study don ASU professor Christy Turner. It shows a distinct difference..

Also I notice that there is no mention of the "African Eve" DNA fiasco.
For whatever reason, these Einsteins just won't give up.

I believe the true picture will emerge only long after the PC BS is long gone and buried; Including the "noble savage" we-copied-out-constitution-from-stone-age-savage-cannibals delusional mindless extrapolations.

8 posted on 07/22/2003 6:48:35 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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Captain Picard was the first American!!!!????
9 posted on 07/22/2003 6:50:43 PM PDT by Tribune7
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"There's not just Monte Verde, there's also a Brazilian site I believe."

Yes, there are a number of other older sites. You're probably talking about Pedra Furada 32,000-48,000 years old in Brazil.

10 posted on 07/22/2003 7:00:27 PM PDT by blam
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But Dr Wells acknowledged the possibility that even more ancient American populations carrying unidentified Y chromosome haplotypes could have been swamped by later migrations, resulting in their genetic legacy being erased.

There's your answer! Otherwise, all the latest discoveries; Spirit Cave, Topper, Monte Verde, Big Eddy, Meadow Cave, etc, are all wrong on their dates.

11 posted on 07/22/2003 7:02:18 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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BUMP!


I LOVE these articles you post! Bookmarking for later reading.
12 posted on 07/22/2003 7:09:15 PM PDT by EggsAckley ( ....I kind of miss Tanya Harding.......life was so simple then.........)
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The PC police are desperate to damage the real science of these bones. This seems more an effort to protect indian casinos than to find out if the North American continent was a little more diverse than the PC nazis would like.
13 posted on 07/22/2003 7:09:31 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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"Spirit Cave, Topper, Monte Verde, Big Eddy, Meadow Cave"

Sounds like part of tomorrow's line at Belmont! My pick of the day: Topper! (of course!)
14 posted on 07/22/2003 7:12:13 PM PDT by jocon307
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"There's your answer! Otherwise, all the latest discoveries; Spirit Cave, Topper, Monte Verde, Big Eddy, Meadow Cave, etc, are all wrong on their dates."

Yup, you get it.

I haven't read anything about the Topper site for a couple years now.

15 posted on 07/22/2003 7:15:37 PM PDT by blam
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New theory on the peopling of America from Europe (Clovis --Solutrean link)! Click here! (new article in Mammoth Trumpet)
16 posted on 07/22/2003 7:16:26 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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Oh Wait, I'm getting a concept here....Star Trek episode....Picard must go back in time to stop the Borg.....winds up in N. America 10K years ago...stops the Borg but is killed in the process...bones become Spirit Cave Man.....Enterprise retreves the fossils, and extracts DNA to make new Picard, then implants clone with all his memories, which were saved in Cmdr. Data's memory banks before the mission....


I'll shut up now.
17 posted on 07/22/2003 7:20:02 PM PDT by Ahban
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To: jocon307; Alas Babylon!
The Topper Site: Pre-Clovis Suprise.
18 posted on 07/22/2003 7:20:39 PM PDT by blam
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"New theory on the peopling of America from Europe (Clovis --Solutrean link)! Click here! (new article in Mammoth Trumpet)"

Good Article. These (Solutreans) seems to be the folks linked with the Topper site, (and others) on the east coast of the US.

19 posted on 07/22/2003 7:29:23 PM PDT by blam
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To: Tribune7
Sure! Didn't you see Star Trek XV?
20 posted on 07/22/2003 7:39:18 PM PDT by Reverend Bob (Emoticons are for people that can't handle irony.)
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