Pentagon plans draft of medics

The Charlotte Observer ^ | Fri, Mar. 21, 2003 | MARK LIBBON

[Freedom4US]

While everyone agrees we have inalienable rights in our country - does this not imply we have some responsibility to our society as well?

[jwalsh07]

While everyone agrees we have inalienable rights in our country - does this not imply we have some responsibility to our society as well?

Nope, the other guy has responsibility, we have our Audi's.

[AdamSelene235]

Article 1, Section 8 is the Constitutional basis for conscription. Now you may not agree with that interpretation but there you have it.

There is no mention of conscription in Article 1, Section 8.

[AdamSelene235]

While everyone agrees we have inalienable rights in our country

No, not even a US citizen's right to a trial by jury is considered "inalienable".

- does this not imply we have some responsibility to our society as well?

Society is an abstraction not a reality. I can no more have a responsibility to "society" than I can to the number 3. Find me a flesh and blood human being and I'll tell you if I have a responsibility to them.

[Freedom4US]

Somehow, I knew you would come up with some Grade "A" sophistry on this question. Nice try, though.

[Kozak]

Sure do. Thats why I volunteered for service. Thats why I go again if the situation got serious enough. Don't think that gives the government the right to enslave amy of my fellow citizens.

[jwalsh07]

Conscription nor the word draft are mentioned in the Constitution but the courts have ruled that the phrase "To raise and support armies.." can indeed be interpreted to mean conscription.

In fact, the naturalization oath contains the following:

A person who has applied for naturalization shall, in order to be and before being admitted to citizenship, take in a public ceremony before the Attorney General or a court with jurisdiction under section 1421(b) of this title an oath (1) to support the Constitution of the United States; (2) to renounce and abjure absolutely and entirely all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which the applicant was before a subject or citizen; (3) to support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; (4) to bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and (5)(A) to bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law, or (B) to perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law, or (C) to perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law.

Now, as a matter of individual preference I oppose the draft but am well aware that Washington had states conscript men because the militia kept going home.

[AdamSelene235]

Somehow, I knew you would come up with some Grade "A" sophistry on this question. Nice try, though.

Where exactly did you refute my points?

[Doc On The Bay]

But if Our Nation was SERIOUSLY AT RISK,--& we (Doctors)were called to Volunteer to help Save our Civilization,--we, (Most of Us), would "Be There" to Help!

Because of the Nature of the "Calling" Physicians Heed, Our Culture would NOT NEED to "Conscript" our "Docs!"

At the Risk of being "Naive;"--I can Almost Guarantee that the "Docs" & ALL THOSE NECESSARY to respond to ANY Medical Emergency WILL BE THERE WHEN NEEDED!!

ANY ATTEMPT to "DRAFT" Medical Personnel in a National Emergency will be regarded as an "Insult" by the "Medical Profession!!"

The "Docs & the Medics" will ALWAYS BE THERE when needed!!

An "INVOLUNTARY DRAFT" is--& will ALWAYS BE--an INSULT to the Professionals who oversee the Health of our Nation!!

ALL OF US--LONG AGO--"Volunteered" to sacrifice MUCH to care for the Healtth of our fellow Citizens!

"CONSCRIPTION" is an INSULT!!

If our Nation "Needs Us,"--we will be "There,"(as We have ALWAYS BEEN!!)

If our current "Leaders" need to consider "Conscription" of our Medical Staffs, then ALL OF US must examine WHY our "Docs" must be "Conscripted!"

IF our "Docs" MUST BE "Conscripted," then a "Questionable Rationale" exists!

THINK ABOUT THIS!!!

Doc

[Mamzelle]

Hm. What if they offered to provide the faculty of the USC law school for target practice?

[SC DOC]

Since I never had the opportunity to fire a weapon during my entire Army career, it is quite tempting. I feel unfullfilled without a sharpshooter and grenade medal in my collection of memorabilia.