Posted on 07/20/2003 1:36:02 PM PDT by Smogger
The mainstream media would NOT be handling the Iraq news responsibly, but would be mouthing the Democratic Party talking points every day. Every day it would be, "Another US soldier killed today in what is quickly becoming the quagmire that critics of the Bush administration warned of."
There would be little good news from Iraq. Little discussion of how the problems Iraq faces now are due largely to Saddam's neglect of Iraq's infrastructure while he built palaces and torture chambers and rape rooms. Little credit given to US forces for the good they have been doing.
It's just as well that they feel compelled to spend so much time on this Kobe Bryant case.
As for Fox News' spending so much time on a rape case-- that is unnacceptable. They could be doing competent coverage of the Iraq situation.
Just as her friends might want to vouch for her.
It does matter because someone is lying here. If he did it then he should pay. If he didn't do it she should pay.
My Opinion:
Kobe committed adultery, and her boyfriend cheated on her. She can't make her ex-boyfriend pay, (committing suicide might make him a little sorry, though) but she sure as hell can make Kobe pay and she is going to try to.
This young DA seems to be somewhat intelligent, but you are correct that his political head will come off if he has filed charges without some clear evidence of forced sex. I am lead to believe that he does have something we have not yet seen since the Sheriff went out on a limb to take the lead initially. If the prosecution does have some damaging evidence, we should hear start to hear about it as the days go by. However, one should be very careful about the sources of any suspicious evidence leaking. As one can clearly tell in these forums, this thing is probably already breaking along lines of gender; possibly even race.
Muleteam1
Your crazy. The whole point of feminism is that men are all sex-crazed rapists deep down. We can barely control ourselves. We (men)are constantly harassing, raping, and opressing women.
The intersts of black people always takes a back seat to the intersts of women in the Democratic party dude. You should know that by now. Look at abortion. Look at Clarence Thomas, look at OJ. Hell! Kobe Bryan't doesn't even "act black."
Anonymous rape accusations.
Domestic violence laws where the woman can't retract accusations, and the man is always arrested.
Of course it can -- standard impeachment evidence they'll ask the witness first, if she denies it they'll bring in other witnesses to confirm.
IF this is true, expect the DA to have a SERIOUS conversatiuon with the alleged victim; and a dropping of all charges soon thereafter. On the other hand, this could simply be a planted story for defense PR purposes.
You seem to link a suicide attempt by a "squeaky clean" victim as somehow proof of a false accusation but you reject the "squaky clean" perp confessing to adultery as somehow proof that he is capable of rape. AMAZING!
The reason there are laws against reporting the name of sex crime victims is because of the very smear campaigns your seeing through the Orange County Register. Even if it is true, it does not make her any less a rape victim if she was indeed raped.
It has ZERO to do with the actual case but it sure does get the Kobe worshippers all lathered up doesn't it?
You mean like smearing someone by falsely accusing them of rape, and dragging their names through the mud, though they have been convicted of nothing? Right. I can see why you would want to do that anonymously
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The credibility of a witness may be attacked or supported by evidence in the form of opinion or reputation, but subject to these limitations: (1) the evidence may refer only to character for truthfulness or untruthfulness, and (2) evidence of truthful character is admissible only after the character of the witness for truthfulness has been attacked by opinion or reputation evidence or otherwise.
In this regard, I am not sure how, under Colorado's rules of evidence, a prior suicide attempt impacts on the question of the alleged victim's credibility in this matter.
You're talking about the admissibility of a 3rd party witness who would be offered to state whether the accuser/victim has a reputation for truthfulness.
But that's not how the suicide info would be used. The defense would ask the victim directly on cross whether she recently tried to commit suicide.
The prosecution objections as to relevance would likely be overcome by the defense offering to use the inquiry to prove whether the "cry for help" aka attempted suicide is being mirrored in the "cry for help" rape drama. I do think the defense would be allowed to explore that line of inquiry, and the evidence rule you cited is not on point -- this is a direct inquiry on cross, not a 'truthfulness' presentation by an independent witness.
Now it is true that the defense would be prevented, based on recent statutes, from using the women's prior sexual history per se on impeachment(even though that might be relevent on purely logical terms).
What "laws" are there that prevent the names of rape victims from being published? My understanding is that the press does that out of courtesy.
I can't imagine such a law standing constitutional scrutiny.
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