Vietnam: 2003

The Freedom Institute ^ | July 17, 2003 | Adam Yoshida

[Amelia]

Long read, but very good summary of why we are in Iraq, how the left is trying to turn public opinion against the war, and how much we've actually accomplished. Worth reading every paragraph, slowly!

Thanks for telling me about this one, RBA!

[Howlin]

Will we be tested when we're done?

[Amelia]

Will we be tested when we're done?

Most assuredly! I need to get back into practice! ;-)

[bvw]

"the Fifth Man" ... the legendary communist bigfoot of the spy game. Turncoat Kim Philby was the "Fourth Man".

[justshe]

Excellent read, Amelia. Thanks for the ping~~~~

[cinFLA]

The real reason was that many more millions of Americans bought into the crap and stabbed those of us who served, faithfully, in the back.

The general population supported the VW for years. After years and years they were tired of seeing body bags and the maimed coming back WITHOUT seeing a real desire from our government to decisively win the conflict.

[cinFLA]

HILLARY: Worked for the democrats to impeach Nixon.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

.."IS it SAFE?" = HILLARY on Senate Armed Services Commitee..

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=629

[cyncooper]

That’s the one thing that the left is really good at: lying. That, and taking positions diametrically opposed to the positions they held last week

As has been starkly illustrated of late. The outright lying about President Bush's uranium statement is one example.

A good example of the position switching is the revelation that in 1999 media and "intelligence sources" the world over were saying it was likely and probable that Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden were forging an alliance. It was reported back then that Saddam offered asylum to bin Laden. Now George W. Bush is portrayed as some kind of crackpot for dreaming up such a possible relationship, when it turns out it most likely (no, it hasn't been proven--yet) was being forged years ago.

[cyncooper]

After watching Walter Cronkite’s coverage of the 1972 Christmas bombing of North Vietnam, Ronald Reagan told President Nixon that if it were being judged by the standards of the Second World War, the network would have been charged with treason.

I never heard this story about Reagan before. Well, now Cronkite has exposed himself for all to see for what he is. It is so sad---but in a terrible sense.

[cinFLA]

As we were moving on Iraq the left was saying that we should be moving on N. Korea since it was more dangerous.

Now they are saying the prez has little credibilty and we cannot act (on N. Korea?) on intelligence that lacks credibility.

[deport]

Thanks.... slowly my eyelids began to close so I had to speed up..... hope you didn't mind.


NOTE: Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.

[Amelia]

NOTE: Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.

"Experience is the hardest teacher - she gives the test first, and the lesson afterwards."

[ALOHA RONNIE]

.......NEVER FORGET......

The Enemy is now Within...
and always has been.

[Mo1]

The media war over Iraq is much like that over Vietnam only, as all things are nowadays, much faster. The traitors opposed to America plan to play exactly the same cards as they did last time, only much faster. Already we are seeing the beginnings of this process and, certainly, it will accelerate in the weeks to come. Watch for all of the following:

I was only 5/6 years old at the height of the Vietnam War and I don't have a lot knowledge of that time

Mike, didn't you once make a comment a while back that the peace protestors didn't start complaining till Nixon took office?

[adamyoshida]

"At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some trans-Atlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us with a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined with a Bonaparte at their head and disposing of all the treasure of the earth, our own excepted, could not by force make a track on the Blue Ridge or take a drink from the Ohio in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us it must spring up from amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we ourselves must be its author and finisher. As a nation of free men, we must live through all times, or die by suicide."
-Abraham Lincoln

[Alamo-Girl]

Bump!

[risk]

"...It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we ourselves must be its author and finisher. As a nation of free men, we must live through all times, or die by suicide." -Abraham Lincoln

I spoke with my father about this over the weekend. During the Vietnam war he was busy with other activities and found himself in the silent majority. I chided him for it, and promised that I would not join the silent majority. He expressed profound regret at not standing up for our actions in Vietnam and defending the troops with more energy. At 79, he is now quoting the bible to fellow church members in support of their military service. They are feeling pressure from baby boomers in the congregation who think Christians should be pacifists.

There must never again be a silent majority. Our downfall will come because good people do nothing to stop it. And good people must not be satisfied by holding the line. The American revolution is a fire that when it sweeps the hearts of men can not be contained. If it isn't spreading, it will go out.

What our parents earned is far more easily lost than we'd like to believe.

[NYer]

There are two enemies right now: the enemy without and the enemy within.

With elections coming up in the fall, it is time to move these people out of office. According to Geoff Metcalf, "There are over 50 Democrats in Congress who are members of a policy group working with, and being promoted by the Democratic Socialists of America, the domestic branch of the Socialist International Party."

"Socialism comes in a wide variety of flavors ... all bad. Communism has jokingly been called "socialism in a hurry." Mussolini tried out fascism, a variation on the same theme. The Nationalist Socialist Workers Party was the Nazism effort. Now Nancy Pelosi, John Conyers, Barney Frank, Maxine Waters and their coconspirators rabid to defend the indefensible are working to introduce and legitimize an American abomination ... The Democratic Socialists of America. "

THE ENEMY WITHIN

SOCIALIST MEMBERS

[CIB-173RDABN]

If, in four years, large numbers of American Soldiers are still fighting and dieing in Iraq, you will see the machinations of domestic subversives opposing this war too.

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If in four years it is still going on, you may very well be correct, but I don't see that happening.

There are a lot more differences between Iraq and Viet Nam. The most obvious is no jungle. The second, there was a long built up by the enemy forces in South Viet Nam before we even arrived there. The infrastructure for guerilla warfare existed. The people have already seen what will happen to them if Saddam (or someone like him) returns to power. Insight that the Viet Cong did not have considering Uncle Ho.

But the real reason it will not happen is because our troops in Iraq have the full support of this administration, and this administration intends to win.